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I'm a morning person. Plus this allows me to work around my kid's schedule and have more time with them when they're awake

josefonseca 14y ago
What if your kids catch a flu? What if your car breaks down? What if a friend has a broken car two blocks from your house and calls you and asks for help? These types of tight schedules where everything is machinized and controlled don't work in real life unless you become a robot - in that case you've defeated your purpose. Sleep at 9, wake at 5 is not realistic unless you're training for IronMan triathlon. These types of schedules break down because things break down: family has issues, cars break, flu happens, roofs get infiltrations, pipes leak, electricity fails, planes get late, airports are crowded, streets may jam, etc, etc... You part on the principle that everything just works and you can sleep at 9 and wake at 4, that is simply unreal.
- ColinWright 14y ago
  You seem to be assuming that he doesn't adapt to circumstances. I have a similarly constrained schedule, and yet when things come up I adapt to them. Having the schedule means that I don't have to adapt very often, and under normal circumstances I can concentrate on the job, and not on scheduling the job. You're replying as if the man is an unthinking robot, enslaved by the schedule, but it's clear to me that he's not. He's simply automated what he can to free up time from scheduling, and to make sure important things are scheduled in properly as the norm.
- krschultz 14y ago
  Interestingly, I have found this varies by region. The major employer in my area (that I work at) has 15,000 people. The unions (factory workers and draftsmen) have to show up between 6am and 7am depending on their specific project (everyone has an exact time, and can actually be 'late'). Engineers can show up anytime they want and leave whenever they want, but typically 9-3 is encouraged as 'core hours' so there is overlap, but other than that we can set our schedules. Thus, I come in at 9am on most days. Most engineers come in more like 7:30-8am. Because the main employer sets the tone, a lot of other companies in the area run an earlier pace. My girlfriend works at a completely unrelated company and started work before 8am. Most of the schools start very early (because the parents are probably out of the house really early). All the union guys are leaving work at 2:30 or 4 in the afternoon, so restaurents open early and close early. Coming from an NYC office where 10am-6pm was the norm, 6:00am-2:30pm seems strange. But it does have some advantages. First off, did you know the sun comes up EARLY. Holy crap was I missing a lot of daylight on the 10-6 schedule. I was up at 5:30 this morning and it was basically broad daylight out there. I went surfing before and after work yesterday while also putting in 9 hours at the office. That only happens if you wake up at 5 in the morning. I personally like to maximize my outdoors-in-the-sun time so getting up at 530 in the summer and 6-630 in the winter has been a revelation. Yes, you have to go to bed earlier. But my girlfriend and I ditched the habit of watching TV before bed we both had from college (and don't have a TV in the bedroom) and that helps a lot. It also helps to go to the gym right after work.

josefonseca 14y ago

What if your kids catch a flu? What if your car breaks down? What if a friend has a broken car two blocks from your house and calls you and asks for help? These types of tight schedules where everything is machinized and controlled don't work in real life unless you become a robot - in that case you've defeated your purpose. Sleep at 9, wake at 5 is not realistic unless you're training for IronMan triathlon. These types of schedules break down because things break down: family has issues, cars break, flu happens, roofs get infiltrations, pipes leak, electricity fails, planes get late, airports are crowded, streets may jam, etc, etc... You part on the principle that everything just works and you can sleep at 9 and wake at 4, that is simply unreal.

ColinWright 14y ago
You seem to be assuming that he doesn't adapt to circumstances. I have a similarly constrained schedule, and yet when things come up I adapt to them. Having the schedule means that I don't have to adapt very often, and under normal circumstances I can concentrate on the job, and not on scheduling the job. You're replying as if the man is an unthinking robot, enslaved by the schedule, but it's clear to me that he's not. He's simply automated what he can to free up time from scheduling, and to make sure important things are scheduled in properly as the norm.
krschultz 14y ago
Interestingly, I have found this varies by region. The major employer in my area (that I work at) has 15,000 people. The unions (factory workers and draftsmen) have to show up between 6am and 7am depending on their specific project (everyone has an exact time, and can actually be 'late'). Engineers can show up anytime they want and leave whenever they want, but typically 9-3 is encouraged as 'core hours' so there is overlap, but other than that we can set our schedules. Thus, I come in at 9am on most days. Most engineers come in more like 7:30-8am. Because the main employer sets the tone, a lot of other companies in the area run an earlier pace. My girlfriend works at a completely unrelated company and started work before 8am. Most of the schools start very early (because the parents are probably out of the house really early). All the union guys are leaving work at 2:30 or 4 in the afternoon, so restaurents open early and close early. Coming from an NYC office where 10am-6pm was the norm, 6:00am-2:30pm seems strange. But it does have some advantages. First off, did you know the sun comes up EARLY. Holy crap was I missing a lot of daylight on the 10-6 schedule. I was up at 5:30 this morning and it was basically broad daylight out there. I went surfing before and after work yesterday while also putting in 9 hours at the office. That only happens if you wake up at 5 in the morning. I personally like to maximize my outdoors-in-the-sun time so getting up at 530 in the summer and 6-630 in the winter has been a revelation. Yes, you have to go to bed earlier. But my girlfriend and I ditched the habit of watching TV before bed we both had from college (and don't have a TV in the bedroom) and that helps a lot. It also helps to go to the gym right after work.