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Primary source: https://www.courdecassation.fr/decision/65cdbcdf2425a70008258563 https://www.courdecassation.fr/decision/65cdbcdf2425a7000825... Orange has to

• mrbn100ful 3y ago
  It's way more, 4 100 000 € 3 millions euro for copyright, 500 000 € for moral damage, 500 000€ for the money Orange made and at least 100 000€ for the lawyer fees plus 1/3 of the remaining fees. And 3 ADs in IT magazine(to show what Orange did wrong). In the document : - Condamner in solidum les sociétés Orange et Orange Business Services à payer à la société Entr'Ouvert les sommes suivantes : 3 000 000 euros (trois millions d'euros) en raison des conséquences économiques négatives de l'atteinte aux droits d'auteur de la société Entr'Ouvert, dont le manque à gagner et la perte subis, 500 000 euros (cinq cent mille euros) au titre du préjudice moral subi par la société Entr'Ouvert, 500 000 euros (cinq cent mille euros) au titre des bénéfices réalisés par les sociétés Orange et Orange Business Services. - Autoriser la société Entr'Ouvert à procéder à la publication de tout ou partie de la décision à intervenir après signification de l'arrêt, dans trois magazines professionnels spécialisés choisis par la société Entr'Ouvert, ainsi que sur les sites internet des sociétés Entr'Ouvert et Orange, aux frais d'Orange, dans la limite de 5 000 euros HT par publication ; - Condamner in solidum les sociétés Orange et Orange Business Services à payer à la société Entr'Ouvert la somme de 100 000 euros (cent mille euros) au titre de l'article 700 du code de procédure civile, ainsi qu'aux entiers dépens en ce compris les frais d'Huissiers dont ceux relatifs à la saisie-contrefaçon.
  • alberto-m 3y ago
    No, 4.1 millions was the request (“Entr'Ouvert, appelante, demande à la cour de...”; later, “La société Entr'Ouvert soutient que...”). What was awarded is in the section “Dispositif”, the rest of the document is just the recapitulation of the case, including what was requested by both parties.
• nbenitezl 3y ago
  Being sarcastic, I bet the commercial license from EntrOuvert was way cheaper than 860k, this horrendous decision should mean firing of the managers involved in Orange, but being a semipublic company the incentives are wrong and these managers probably have promoted since then.
  • sokoloff 3y ago
    If they haven’t been promoted in the 14-20 years since the violation occurred, their career has really stalled.
  • sacado2 3y ago
    Well, turns out the CEO of Orange back then was Thierry Breton, and indeed nowadays Mr. Breton is a European Commissioner, so things turned out pretty well for him.
    • keepamovin 3y ago
      I wouldn’t say having a reputation as counterfeiter and ripper off of open source IP, as “working out pretty well” but YMMV, I guess it depends on your value system hahahahaha! :)
• himinlomax 3y ago
  Interesting detail in the judgement: Orange's had lawyers argued that the GPL was in English and that the translation offered was invalid, and that its dispositions were contrary to French law. The judges seemed particularly ticked off by this argument, noting that the lawyers did not bother to point out any examples of either point.
  • School-Cotton 3y ago
    That’s really absurd, if two companies from non-English-speaking countries couldn’t sign contracts in English basically all of international business would collapse.