In that case it doesn't matter if the ORM is "slow". Anyway, I disagree. Sometimes the conversion of raw data from the db to Python objects can be the bottlene

In that case it doesn't matter if the ORM is "slow". Anyway, I disagree. Sometimes the conversion of raw data from the db to Python objects can be the bottleneck for a view. Of course, almost always when this happens it's not really a problem per se as the view is plenty fast enough.