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If you ask people in Taiwan, they will say they’re independent. If you ask China, they’ll say Taiwan belongs to China. The short history version is basically l
by bfung 3y ago
If you ask people in Taiwan, they will say they’re independent. If you ask China, they’ll say Taiwan belongs to China.
The short history version is basically like this: after the overthrowing of the last emperor and WW2, the Chinese civil war continued between the KMT political party and the Communist party. KMT basically lost and moved to which is Taiwan today and even the KMT now is no longer the controlling majority now (they have elections whereas mainland China does not).
- pastacacioepepe 3y ago[flagged]
- jack1243star 3y agoI guess it's not as easy to do polls in an authoritarian country.
- pastacacioepepe 3y ago[flagged]
- samus 3y agoNone of these criteria qualify. Try again.
- pastacacioepepe 3y ago[flagged]
- samus 3y agoThat's a better argument :) I'd also like to add that prisoners in the USA lose their voting rights. However, the argument was initially about Taiwan, not about the USA.
- throwaway2990 3y agoChina has 18 border disputes and has been encroaching on India. Don’t try make the claim it hasn’t waged war when it is. It also enslaves an entire ethnic group. Highest executions. Almost 100% conviction rate. Has undercover police operations all around the world pretending to be Chinese cultural or help centers for Chinese people.
- pastacacioepepe 3y ago[flagged]
- throwaway2990 3y ago> a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations Based on the definition of war. China has engaged in war multiple times. And is actively in no less than 18 border disputes with conflicts with Philippines and India. Take your CPC boot licking elsewhere.
- sandspar 3y ago[flagged]
- smoldesu 3y agoThey also didn't refute anything the parent said. "Dubious claims from biased sources" isn't denying that Uighur exploitation happens, it's a strawman that diverts the criticism to the media. Same goes for the CIA/NSA comment and incarceration statistics - they seem to be under the impression that other countries taking nuanced action excuses nuclear-option behavior from a one-party state. Suffice to say that if the United States is deserving of criticism, then China's actions are due double the scrutiny. As an American citizen, I take no issue holding both countries accountable.
- tz18 3y agowhat are you gonna spend your 50 cents on?
- matthewfelgate 3y agoLiterally wrong on every point.
- sandspar 3y agoThe KMT is now a modern political party much like any other, which generally performs very well in elections.
- bfung 3y agoTo the person who got flagged to death, apologies I wasn’t ultra precise in grammar, and yes, my experiences does bias me a bit. Though, in my experience, asking that question to people in China (or from there) is generally met with: * I don’t know, not interested in politics * Chinese people live there so they’re a part of China (not separating gov from race/ethnicity as a naive answer) * (no comment)