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The “this is no different than before!” argument is dismissible on its face. As evidenced by NVDA’s trillion dollar valuation and the hundreds of billions being
by ethanbond 3y ago
The “this is no different than before!” argument is dismissible on its face. As evidenced by NVDA’s trillion dollar valuation and the hundreds of billions being deployed into AI companies — that’s not because they’re building stuff that makes the world just the same as it was before.
Ah yes, middle school/high school bullies: famously disempowered by things like plausible deniability. The suffering caused by bullying and harassment: powerless in the light of plausible deniability.
AFAICT the people who would be close to this issue (e.g. people who pay attention to online harassment, teen mental health, and child pornography) come to a different prediction as far as impact. I’m far more inclined to believe them than people leveling an argument that, as I said, can just as readily defend murder, car thefts, and medical malpractice. All the suffering is just in people’s heads and all of it can be eliminated by proliferating the behavior to sufficient degree.
- jncfhnb 3y ago> The “this is no different than before!” argument is dismissible on its face. As evidenced by NVDA’s trillion dollar valuation and the hundreds of billions being deployed into AI companies — that’s not because they’re building stuff that makes the world just the same as it was before. By this logic, you need to worry about me using AI to seduce your mom. Because NVIDIA spent a TRILLION DOLLARS! > Ah yes, middle school/high school bullies: famously disempowered by things like plausible deniability. The suffering caused by bullying and harassment: powerless in the light of plausible deniability. If bullies can push things as truth regardless of their merit then false information doesn’t matter.
- ethanbond 3y agoSure if you ignore that generating and modifying images is one of the leading usecases. Anyhow I think the combination "your mom" joke and thinking valuation == spend has revealed this to be a fruitless conversation.
- jncfhnb 3y agoMy inaccuracy is a testament to how lame of an argument it is to say this is an area of high monetary investment ergo it must be salient to teens harassing each other
- ethanbond 3y agoJust laying out my understanding of where we are right now. Tell me where it's wrong: Companies: We're raising billions of dollars to make it cheaper, faster, and easier to produce extremely believable fake media. Our success in this endeavor is verifiable by opening one of thousands of new image generator tools and trying it yourself for 30 seconds. News reports: People are using tools that make it cheaper, faster, and easier to produce extremely believable nonconsensual sexual imagery of children (e.g. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinformation/beverly-vista-hills-middle-school-ai-images-deepfakes-rcna140775 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinformation/beverly-vista-hi...) You: This is just like Photoshop. Not sure what the relevance is. Is that right?
- jncfhnb 3y agoYeah I think that’s pretty dull as far as evidence that this is moving the needle at all in terms of teen harassment.