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I meant that quote to be tongue-in-cheek, and out of reality. Should’ve been a bit more clear, my bad. When I was a kid, that’s how older people around me desc
by kredd 3y ago
I meant that quote to be tongue-in-cheek, and out of reality. Should’ve been a bit more clear, my bad.
When I was a kid, that’s how older people around me described what parenthood gives you (eternal happiness). Later on, as sad as it sounds, I realized that line can be used as a cope for people for whom parenthood didn’t work out for a lot of different reasons (loss of a child, kids not meeting your expectations, work stress, problems in your partnership, societal priorities and etc.). So you start weighing your risks, and some come to conclusion that having no children or just one is good enough.
Then again, you get “you’ll never know until you experience it!” statements, and that still doesn’t cut it. Because, it’s really, genuinely good enough for some people, since you avoided most of the risks and enjoyed your life. Also as childless/small families age, they become a proof of concept to others how you really don’t need 3+ children (basically a requirement to be at the replacement level of the society).
There’s also a huge underlying “everyone wants others to have children, but only care about their own children” issue. And as we’ve gotten more competitive in the society, the best way to play the game is not playing it. But that’s a different topic.
Sorry for being a bit of a downer, but we talk about this with my friends quite often (late 20s-30s groups). And that’s generally how everyone feels - both men and women.
- Dalewyn 3y agoI relate heavily. I (Japanese-American male, if that matters) do not ever plan on marrying and thusly having children, life is far too short to deal with that literal bullshit when I have so many bigger fish to fry.
- geraldwhen 3y agoWhat fish? Without kids, nothing matters. You’re just moving from one hedonistic pleasure to the next.
- Hamuko 3y agoOh no, not the pleasures!
- Dalewyn 3y agoSex is but one of many hedonistic pleasures, one which I personally value around the bottom of my list of fish to fry because relationships carry far too much fucking (pun intended) baggage.
- fzeroracer 3y agoAccording to whomst, exactly? Do you remember the works of great artists or authors because they have children? Is the work of Nikola Tesla worthless because he didn't fulfil the human biological imperative?
- pseudocomposer 3y agoSo you’re gonna be a great artist or the next Tesla? And everyone should assume they will be?