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The photos show people doing their jobs skillfully and conscientiously. That makes sense, because it's safety-critical important infrastructure for an economic

by neilv 3y ago

The photos show people doing their jobs skillfully and conscientiously. That makes sense, because it's safety-critical important infrastructure for an economic powerhouse city. But why don't we always see skill and conscientiousness in all the other jobs where that would be appropriate?

hoten 3y ago
Are you asking why it isn't present, or why we don't see it/it isn't put on display? What areas do you have in mind?
GuB-42 3y ago
Many places that appear skillful and conscientious on camera and in newspaper articles are really not that much. Many companies offer a kind of tour to officials and journalists where they show what they want to show. Cleaning up what is visible, giving the right tasks to the right employees and generally hiding the mess. Journalists may be complicit, they have to if they want these pretty pictures. Essentially, that's an ad. Not saying it is the case here, but I know for a fact that it can happen.
- Animats 3y ago
  I wonder. You can look at the Coney Island shops in Google Earth. That shop has a huge amount of junk outside, including an abandoned SUV, rusted shipping containers, overflowing debris boxes, rows of wheel assemblies, motors, and way too many randomly parked cars.
  - RugnirViking 3y ago
    in general that's a weakly positive signal for good engineering and work ethic in this kind of a field imo
ilamont 3y ago
Because private companies in the United States have much more leeway to cut corners, even in heavily regulated industries. Boeing spins off a manufacturing unit to save money and the FAA takes their word for quality control, with predictable results: As part of the federal securities lawsuit, a Spirit employee allegedly told higher-ups about an “excessive amount of defects,” later telling a colleague he “believed it was just a matter of time until a major defect escaped to a customer.” According to the court filing, the company ignored the warnings. https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/boeing-subcontractor-subject-of-lawsuit-over-qc-deficiencies/ https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/boeing-subcontractor-sub... Blackstone-owned meatpacking cleaning company hires 15 year olds to clean slaughterhouses, with predictable results: Blackstone-owned slaughterhouse cleaning company Packers Sanitation Services (PSSI) in February paid a $1.5 million US Department of Labor (DOL) fine for “oppressive child labor.” DOL investigators found more than 100 children working in hazardous jobs, under illegal conditions, with multiple children suffering injuries. https://pestakeholder.org/news/large-investors-challenge-blackstone-over-child-labor/ https://pestakeholder.org/news/large-investors-challenge-bla... Blackstone's CEO was paid a quarter BILLION dollars in 2022: https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/blackstone-ceo-s-2022-compensation-tops-us-private-equity-venture-capital-peers-76961772 https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights...
tekla 3y ago
Pride is a powerful force.
rangestransform 3y ago
I read a news story that the MTA wood shop employees make personal furniture on the clock using wood from work

by neilv 3y ago

hoten 3y ago

Are you asking why it isn't present, or why we don't see it/it isn't put on display? What areas do you have in mind?

GuB-42 3y ago

Many places that appear skillful and conscientious on camera and in newspaper articles are really not that much. Many companies offer a kind of tour to officials and journalists where they show what they want to show. Cleaning up what is visible, giving the right tasks to the right employees and generally hiding the mess. Journalists may be complicit, they have to if they want these pretty pictures. Essentially, that's an ad. Not saying it is the case here, but I know for a fact that it can happen.

Animats 3y ago
I wonder. You can look at the Coney Island shops in Google Earth. That shop has a huge amount of junk outside, including an abandoned SUV, rusted shipping containers, overflowing debris boxes, rows of wheel assemblies, motors, and way too many randomly parked cars.
- RugnirViking 3y ago
  in general that's a weakly positive signal for good engineering and work ethic in this kind of a field imo

ilamont 3y ago

Because private companies in the United States have much more leeway to cut corners, even in heavily regulated industries. Boeing spins off a manufacturing unit to save money and the FAA takes their word for quality control, with predictable results: As part of the federal securities lawsuit, a Spirit employee allegedly told higher-ups about an “excessive amount of defects,” later telling a colleague he “believed it was just a matter of time until a major defect escaped to a customer.” According to the court filing, the company ignored the warnings. https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/boeing-subcontractor-subject-of-lawsuit-over-qc-deficiencies/ https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/boeing-subcontractor-sub... Blackstone-owned meatpacking cleaning company hires 15 year olds to clean slaughterhouses, with predictable results: Blackstone-owned slaughterhouse cleaning company Packers Sanitation Services (PSSI) in February paid a $1.5 million US Department of Labor (DOL) fine for “oppressive child labor.” DOL investigators found more than 100 children working in hazardous jobs, under illegal conditions, with multiple children suffering injuries. https://pestakeholder.org/news/large-investors-challenge-blackstone-over-child-labor/ https://pestakeholder.org/news/large-investors-challenge-bla... Blackstone's CEO was paid a quarter BILLION dollars in 2022: https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/blackstone-ceo-s-2022-compensation-tops-us-private-equity-venture-capital-peers-76961772 https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights...

tekla 3y ago

Pride is a powerful force.

rangestransform 3y ago

I read a news story that the MTA wood shop employees make personal furniture on the clock using wood from work