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That’s exactly why I’m building a note-taking app in Qt C++ and QML that is vastly more performant than other note-taking apps[1]. This degradation of software

That’s exactly why I’m building a note-taking app in Qt C++ and QML that is vastly more performant than other note-taking apps[1]. This degradation of software by web apps shows in the lack of optimal resource utilization of even one of the most powerful chips of recent times. [1] https://www.get-plume.com/ https://www.get-plume.com/

ukuina 3y ago
Plume looks neat! What is the pricing model you have in mind?
- rubymamis 3y ago
  Thanks! It will be a subscription model. $25 paid yearly or $3 monthly (that’s the idea for now).
bleomycin 3y ago
Plume looks very interesting! One place I personally find many apps in this category fall down is their ability to handle pdf’s embedded or attached within notes gracefully. This applies to desktop and mobile apps. This may be a slightly weird use case but I accumulate tons of pdf’s that are often relevant to my notes and want them easily embedded and viewable in a first class way. Obsidian is a great example of how not to handle a pdf locking it to a small portion of the window and not allowing it to be full screened. Forcing the user to dump all of their pdf’s into something like google drive locked away from the rest of their notes is a crappy experience and h fortunately keeps me using apps like evernote purely for this functionality.
- rubymamis 3y ago
  Thanks! Hmm, I've seen many open-source Qt apps integrate PDF support, so I guess I can study them. I'm adding this to the to-do list. How do you usually add a PDF to your notes? Drag and drop? What's the ideal way you look to interact with it? You said no full-screen, so what it does look like?
- fiforpg 3y ago
  If you need pdf viewing and management (indexing, annotations, citations), it might be useful to look into citation managers, which are built to do exactly these things: check out Zotero.
- limandoc 3y ago
  I am working on a knowledge structuring tool as well; will silent release soon: limandoc.com You can put all your documents/PDFs there and structure them as you wish. And it will be syncing locally only!
wkat4242 3y ago
Nice that's exactly what I'm looking for, as I use KDE and Qt apps fit in so well. Will the client side be open source? I hope so because I'm on FreeBSD so you probably won't make a compiled version :)
- rubymamis 3y ago
  Plume is actually based on my open source note-taking app Notes[1]. You can already get it on Flathub, Snap Store etc. Notes uses just a simple plain text editor while Plume has a completely revamped block editor that I built from scratch. That parts of Notes used in Plume will remain open source (per the MPL license) but the rest of the code will be closed source. At least for the time being. [1] https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    Ah too bad, I do need a rich text notes app (and no markdown, I hate markdown, under the hood it's fine but I don't want to deal with it :) ). Also hate kanban and agile methodology by the way ;) Luckily I'm not a dev otherwise I would have to work with all of those lol. But perhaps you could do the monetisation via the sync service only and make the app open source :) That would be great, at least for me so I could compile it on FreeBSD. Some others do this, like Obsidian, for which there's an actual BSD port. But it's electron, sadly. But I understand... It's a tiny niche. I'll keep looking. Of course I can't use flatpak and snap. And I can't stand snaps so no way I'd use that. Flatpaks are a bit better but not working on BSD. I really used to love tomboy. It was fast, rich text, would automatically hyperlink notes together as you typed, it was so great. But they stopped development on it. There were a few reboots but they were complete rewrites and lacked all the speed and smoothness I loved.
    - rubymamis 3y ago
      Is it a deal breaker for you that the app isn't open source? What if I create binaries for FreeBSD/your distro and there's no telemetry/option to disable connecting to the internet (even for updates)?
ToucanLoucan 3y ago
> This degradation of software by web apps shows the lack of optimal resource utilization of even one of the most powerful chips of recent times. A-fucking-men. Web tools are for building web apps, software tools are for building software. I avoid all these goddamn electron things like the plague if at all fucking possible. Garbage on phones, garbage on computers, garbage on tablets. Garbage.
- rubymamis 3y ago
  It's unfortunately very hard to avoid them. But indeed, on macOS, I try to find only native or native-like apps for my needs. It's the difference between a healthy diet and junk food for my computer.
- deleted 3y ago
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moneywoes 3y ago
will the mobile all be fast as well? my issue is i can’t find a platform with a fast mobile app it seems they’re all react native
- rubymamis 3y ago
  I didn't yet try to create a mobile version, but I don't see why, as Qt Quick is very performant. I guess we'll have to wait till I port it and do some testing.
neuromanser 3y ago
Scrolling in the webpage crashed my browser (Firefox, ios).
- rubymamis 3y ago
  Weird, it seems to work fine for me (Firefox, iOS).

ukuina 3y ago

Plume looks neat! What is the pricing model you have in mind?

rubymamis 3y ago
Thanks! It will be a subscription model. $25 paid yearly or $3 monthly (that’s the idea for now).

bleomycin 3y ago

Plume looks very interesting! One place I personally find many apps in this category fall down is their ability to handle pdf’s embedded or attached within notes gracefully. This applies to desktop and mobile apps. This may be a slightly weird use case but I accumulate tons of pdf’s that are often relevant to my notes and want them easily embedded and viewable in a first class way. Obsidian is a great example of how not to handle a pdf locking it to a small portion of the window and not allowing it to be full screened. Forcing the user to dump all of their pdf’s into something like google drive locked away from the rest of their notes is a crappy experience and h fortunately keeps me using apps like evernote purely for this functionality.

rubymamis 3y ago
Thanks! Hmm, I've seen many open-source Qt apps integrate PDF support, so I guess I can study them. I'm adding this to the to-do list. How do you usually add a PDF to your notes? Drag and drop? What's the ideal way you look to interact with it? You said no full-screen, so what it does look like?
fiforpg 3y ago
If you need pdf viewing and management (indexing, annotations, citations), it might be useful to look into citation managers, which are built to do exactly these things: check out Zotero.
limandoc 3y ago
I am working on a knowledge structuring tool as well; will silent release soon: limandoc.com You can put all your documents/PDFs there and structure them as you wish. And it will be syncing locally only!

wkat4242 3y ago

Nice that's exactly what I'm looking for, as I use KDE and Qt apps fit in so well. Will the client side be open source? I hope so because I'm on FreeBSD so you probably won't make a compiled version :)

rubymamis 3y ago
Plume is actually based on my open source note-taking app Notes[1]. You can already get it on Flathub, Snap Store etc. Notes uses just a simple plain text editor while Plume has a completely revamped block editor that I built from scratch. That parts of Notes used in Plume will remain open source (per the MPL license) but the rest of the code will be closed source. At least for the time being. [1] https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes
- wkat4242 3y ago
  Ah too bad, I do need a rich text notes app (and no markdown, I hate markdown, under the hood it's fine but I don't want to deal with it :) ). Also hate kanban and agile methodology by the way ;) Luckily I'm not a dev otherwise I would have to work with all of those lol. But perhaps you could do the monetisation via the sync service only and make the app open source :) That would be great, at least for me so I could compile it on FreeBSD. Some others do this, like Obsidian, for which there's an actual BSD port. But it's electron, sadly. But I understand... It's a tiny niche. I'll keep looking. Of course I can't use flatpak and snap. And I can't stand snaps so no way I'd use that. Flatpaks are a bit better but not working on BSD. I really used to love tomboy. It was fast, rich text, would automatically hyperlink notes together as you typed, it was so great. But they stopped development on it. There were a few reboots but they were complete rewrites and lacked all the speed and smoothness I loved.
  - rubymamis 3y ago
    Is it a deal breaker for you that the app isn't open source? What if I create binaries for FreeBSD/your distro and there's no telemetry/option to disable connecting to the internet (even for updates)?

ToucanLoucan 3y ago

> This degradation of software by web apps shows the lack of optimal resource utilization of even one of the most powerful chips of recent times. A-fucking-men. Web tools are for building web apps, software tools are for building software. I avoid all these goddamn electron things like the plague if at all fucking possible. Garbage on phones, garbage on computers, garbage on tablets. Garbage.

rubymamis 3y ago
It's unfortunately very hard to avoid them. But indeed, on macOS, I try to find only native or native-like apps for my needs. It's the difference between a healthy diet and junk food for my computer.
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moneywoes 3y ago

will the mobile all be fast as well? my issue is i can’t find a platform with a fast mobile app it seems they’re all react native

rubymamis 3y ago
I didn't yet try to create a mobile version, but I don't see why, as Qt Quick is very performant. I guess we'll have to wait till I port it and do some testing.

neuromanser 3y ago

Scrolling in the webpage crashed my browser (Firefox, ios).

rubymamis 3y ago
Weird, it seems to work fine for me (Firefox, iOS).