3 ms·

ChatGPT loves to add "it's important to remember" to every second answer. Also "multifaceted" and a few other adjectives like that.

by kgeist 3y ago

mistrial9 3y ago
objection -- ChatGPT does not "love" anything.. a reason to repeat that phrase is that it is written often, for real communication reasons. Declaring that something written often by humans is now an indication of ChatGPT is wrong-direction IMHO and directly objectionable here, a place where reasoning humans think and communicate via writing.
- kgeist 3y ago
  ChatGPT was additionally finetuned after the initial training of the base model, so it's not completely clear if it truly represents the original distribution anymore. I use open weights models and they repeat such phrases less frequently in my experience.
- redox99 3y ago
  That's completely untrue. Try using any base (non finetuned model) such as llama base, mistral base etc and you'll see that it does not write like that. That response format and writing style was added by OpenAI during the finetuning stage.
  - mistrial9 3y ago
    the post says "a reason to repeat that phrase" not THE reason, not THE ONLY reason, so it is not COMPLETELY untrue. agitated?
- gopher_space 3y ago
  I can visualize a little cartoon Einstein scribbling away on his chalkboard, but everything I'd actually project on the chalkboard would be nonsense. Relying on my cartoon output or thinking it has value would be madness. Someone who's studied the subject quite a bit might visualize an actual Einstein chalkboard from memory. Their output could be verified and referenced, but looking for new Einstein-level math on the chalkboard would be madness. Someone who Einstein himself would consider a peer might use this visualization method as a way to do actual work. If we're assigning value to our chalkboards we'd be able to explain why we chose the numbers -1, 0, and 1. This would bias any math we'd do towards one of the chalkboards depending on our intent. At this point my chalkboard is useful as a filter. Putting this all together, we'd see that the overall look of the cartoon responses would be a blend of 0 and 1 styles and would depend on our requests e.g. a reference request would look mostly like 0's art style. My own personal art style will be intentionally absent because it's only ever framing nonsense, by my own admission.

ChatGPT loves to add "it's important to remember" to every second answer. Also "multifaceted" and a few other adjectives like that.

by kgeist 3y ago

ChatGPT loves to add "it's important to remember" to every second answer. Also "multifaceted" and a few other adjectives like that.

mistrial9 3y ago

objection -- ChatGPT does not "love" anything.. a reason to repeat that phrase is that it is written often, for real communication reasons. Declaring that something written often by humans is now an indication of ChatGPT is wrong-direction IMHO and directly objectionable here, a place where reasoning humans think and communicate via writing.

kgeist 3y ago
ChatGPT was additionally finetuned after the initial training of the base model, so it's not completely clear if it truly represents the original distribution anymore. I use open weights models and they repeat such phrases less frequently in my experience.
redox99 3y ago
That's completely untrue. Try using any base (non finetuned model) such as llama base, mistral base etc and you'll see that it does not write like that. That response format and writing style was added by OpenAI during the finetuning stage.
- mistrial9 3y ago
  the post says "a reason to repeat that phrase" not THE reason, not THE ONLY reason, so it is not COMPLETELY untrue. agitated?
gopher_space 3y ago
I can visualize a little cartoon Einstein scribbling away on his chalkboard, but everything I'd actually project on the chalkboard would be nonsense. Relying on my cartoon output or thinking it has value would be madness. Someone who's studied the subject quite a bit might visualize an actual Einstein chalkboard from memory. Their output could be verified and referenced, but looking for new Einstein-level math on the chalkboard would be madness. Someone who Einstein himself would consider a peer might use this visualization method as a way to do actual work. If we're assigning value to our chalkboards we'd be able to explain why we chose the numbers -1, 0, and 1. This would bias any math we'd do towards one of the chalkboards depending on our intent. At this point my chalkboard is useful as a filter. Putting this all together, we'd see that the overall look of the cartoon responses would be a blend of 0 and 1 styles and would depend on our requests e.g. a reference request would look mostly like 0's art style. My own personal art style will be intentionally absent because it's only ever framing nonsense, by my own admission.