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OT: Can something be done about HN commenting culture so that the comments stay more on topic? Some technologies (like Kubernetes) tend to attract discussions

OT: Can something be done about HN commenting culture so that the comments stay more on topic? Some technologies (like Kubernetes) tend to attract discussions where half of the commenters completely ignore the original article, so we end up having a weekly thread about Kubernetes where the points of the article (which are interesting) are not able to be discussed because they are drowned out by the same unstructured OT discussions? At the time of this posting there are ~20 comments with ~2 actually having anything to do with the points of the article rather than Kubernetes in general.

cogman10 3y ago
Having read the article, isn't the point of the article kubernetes in general and what the author prescribes you sign up for/avoid? Discussions of k8s pitfalls and successes in general seems to be very much in line with what the article is advocating. And, to that point, there's frankly just not a whole lot interesting in this article for discussion "We avoid yaml and operators"... Neat.
- hobofan 3y ago
  > Having read the article, isn't the point of the article kubernetes in general and what the author prescribes you sign up for/avoid? Yeah, and I think that provides a good basis to discussion, where people can critique/discuss whether the evaluation that the author has made are correct (which a few comments are doing). At the same time a lot of that discussion is being displaced by what I would roughly characterize as "general technology flaming" which isn't going anywhere productive.
geodel 3y ago
Huh, this article has hardly anything deep, technical, thought provoking or unique compared to ten thousand other Kubernetes articles. I am rather happy that people are having general purpose discussion about K8s.
freedomben 3y ago
What you're seeing is the early-crowd. With most (not all) posts, comments will eventually rise to the top that are more what you're looking for. IME it usually takes a couple hours. If it's a post where I really want to read the relevant comments, I'll usually come back at least 8 to 12 hours later and there's usually some good ones to choose from. Even topics like Apple that attract the extreme lovers and haters tend to trend this direction
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pvg 3y ago
The solution to that is to flag boring/generic articles and/or post/upvote more specific, interesting articles. Generic articles produce generic, mostly repetitive comments but then again that's what the material the commenters are given.

cogman10 3y ago

Having read the article, isn't the point of the article kubernetes in general and what the author prescribes you sign up for/avoid? Discussions of k8s pitfalls and successes in general seems to be very much in line with what the article is advocating. And, to that point, there's frankly just not a whole lot interesting in this article for discussion "We avoid yaml and operators"... Neat.

hobofan 3y ago
> Having read the article, isn't the point of the article kubernetes in general and what the author prescribes you sign up for/avoid? Yeah, and I think that provides a good basis to discussion, where people can critique/discuss whether the evaluation that the author has made are correct (which a few comments are doing). At the same time a lot of that discussion is being displaced by what I would roughly characterize as "general technology flaming" which isn't going anywhere productive.

geodel 3y ago

Huh, this article has hardly anything deep, technical, thought provoking or unique compared to ten thousand other Kubernetes articles. I am rather happy that people are having general purpose discussion about K8s.

freedomben 3y ago

What you're seeing is the early-crowd. With most (not all) posts, comments will eventually rise to the top that are more what you're looking for. IME it usually takes a couple hours. If it's a post where I really want to read the relevant comments, I'll usually come back at least 8 to 12 hours later and there's usually some good ones to choose from. Even topics like Apple that attract the extreme lovers and haters tend to trend this direction

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pvg 3y ago

The solution to that is to flag boring/generic articles and/or post/upvote more specific, interesting articles. Generic articles produce generic, mostly repetitive comments but then again that's what the material the commenters are given.