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We could legalize all drugs so people can have access to clean drugs of a known potency.

by tacocataco 3y ago

c048 3y ago
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- pikamau5 3y ago
  you're right, we should make all drugs cheap too!
  - c048 3y ago
    Good, so let's do that first before making an already terribly exploitative system even worse.
    - catlifeonmars 3y ago
      This where I think criminalization actually serves to increase exploitation and increase the incentives for exploitation.
      - c048 3y ago
        I heavily disagree with that. Most legally available drugs are already out of reach for most of the homeless people (even more so in the US). These people are primarily defined by their financial status, if nothing else.
        catlifeonmars 3y ago
        Maybe we are talking about different things. I mean that criminalizing drugs tends to make their use more risky as there are fewer quality controls and no legal recourse for drug users who get low quality or downright poisonous products. Vulnerable populations, like the homeless, who are already easy to exploit, become victims of this culturally and legally defined demarcation.
        c048 3y ago
        The only way that I can see that happening is when the price would drop significantly enough so homeless people would prefer it over black-market dealers. Keep in mind that there are a lot of legal practices, or legally obtainable things, that still have a large black market. Its been historically proven again and again that people will gladly take risks or a loss in quality over affordability.
- dang 3y ago
  Please make your substantive points thoughtfully and avoid snark, as the guidelines ask: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
  - c048 3y ago
    A poor statement gets a poor response. Start looking at the head of this comment thread before you choose to chide me. And there is nothing snarky about this. We've seen this exact scenario happen recently in certain areas of the US (e.g. Oregon) and Portugal where they eased off on criminalizing drugs use. You're talking about an economic weak group, where legality is less of an issue than cost. Them being 'homeless' is BY DEFINITION an indication of their poverty. If you still want to double down on considering my post 'snarky', how can you also not say the same about 'https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=39580412&goto=item%3Fid%3D39580338%2339580412 https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=39580412&goto=item%3Fi...' in this very thread.
    - dang 3y ago
      The GP comment may have been bad or wrong, but it didn't break the site guidelines as far as I can tell. We need you (i.e. everyone commenting here) to follow HN's rules regardless of how badly other people's posts are. Moderation is inevitably inconsistent because we can't see everything; not even in the same thread.
misja111 3y ago
Aren't most opiods legal already?

We could legalize all drugs so people can have access to clean drugs of a known potency.

c048 3y ago

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pikamau5 3y ago
you're right, we should make all drugs cheap too!
- c048 3y ago
  Good, so let's do that first before making an already terribly exploitative system even worse.
  - catlifeonmars 3y ago
    This where I think criminalization actually serves to increase exploitation and increase the incentives for exploitation.
    - c048 3y ago
      I heavily disagree with that. Most legally available drugs are already out of reach for most of the homeless people (even more so in the US). These people are primarily defined by their financial status, if nothing else.
      - catlifeonmars 3y ago
        Maybe we are talking about different things. I mean that criminalizing drugs tends to make their use more risky as there are fewer quality controls and no legal recourse for drug users who get low quality or downright poisonous products. Vulnerable populations, like the homeless, who are already easy to exploit, become victims of this culturally and legally defined demarcation.
        c048 3y ago
        The only way that I can see that happening is when the price would drop significantly enough so homeless people would prefer it over black-market dealers. Keep in mind that there are a lot of legal practices, or legally obtainable things, that still have a large black market. Its been historically proven again and again that people will gladly take risks or a loss in quality over affordability.
dang 3y ago
Please make your substantive points thoughtfully and avoid snark, as the guidelines ask: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
- c048 3y ago
  A poor statement gets a poor response. Start looking at the head of this comment thread before you choose to chide me. And there is nothing snarky about this. We've seen this exact scenario happen recently in certain areas of the US (e.g. Oregon) and Portugal where they eased off on criminalizing drugs use. You're talking about an economic weak group, where legality is less of an issue than cost. Them being 'homeless' is BY DEFINITION an indication of their poverty. If you still want to double down on considering my post 'snarky', how can you also not say the same about 'https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=39580412&goto=item%3Fid%3D39580338%2339580412 https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=39580412&goto=item%3Fi...' in this very thread.
  - dang 3y ago
    The GP comment may have been bad or wrong, but it didn't break the site guidelines as far as I can tell. We need you (i.e. everyone commenting here) to follow HN's rules regardless of how badly other people's posts are. Moderation is inevitably inconsistent because we can't see everything; not even in the same thread.

misja111 3y ago

Aren't most opiods legal already?