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Cyberattacks like these deserve the same kind of government response a terrorist attack gets.
by ThisIsMyAltAcct 3y ago
Cyberattacks like these deserve the same kind of government response a terrorist attack gets.
- jMyles 3y ago> the same kind of government response a terrorist attack gets. Has that particular kind of response ever achieved anything? (Anything germane to the concern at hand, I mean - of course it has often achieved enriching well-connected contractors and such)
- raverbashing 3y agoHas looking like a sitting duck ever achieved anything besides making you look like a good repeat target?
- Geisterde 3y agoYou think invading countries is a plausible way to stop people from cyberattacking the united states? How many people would you say youll have to kill?
- raverbashing 3y agoNobody is talking about invading countries, you don't need to do that to retaliate against a handful of people
- Geisterde 3y agoWhat does "send nato in" sound like to you? Do you think other countries are cool with you violating their borders?
- birdiesanders 3y agoThis fits the bill for terrorism in my mind, it is an intentional act to directly affect the people of a nation, and if it causes even one death it becomes way more likely the law will see it as such. Who knows when (one of these events will eventually cause a response from fed) cyberattack becomes synonymous with terror attack, though. Could be this one, could be the future (hypothetical) attack on Fox News or CNN, could be someone turning off the sewage treatment plant for DC, one of them will ruffle the right feather, eventually.
- bpye 3y agoThere have been other attacks in the past that would meet that bar, the first that comes to mind is WannaCry - seeing as it disrupted the NHS.
- bbor 3y ago> it is an intentional act to directly affect the people of a nation I would define terrorism as something closer to “violence with the intent to intimidate political opponents”. This isn’t really violent, and even if it is (it’s certainly very dangerous!), there’s no political message. Unless this is a 4D chess play that somehow is supposed to weaken America by making us more stressed or something, this just seems like Russian privateering. Your definition is a bit too broad, as I think you would admit to - I’m guessing you didn’t intend it as a flawless philosophical definition, just a quick one
- syndicatedjelly 3y agoI don’t want to live in whatever world you’re dreaming of
- miki123211 3y agoTHe nice property of terrorist attacks is that the terrorist groups need somebody in the country where the attack actually happens. You might be too late to catch them, they might commit suicide etc, but in general, that property makes law enforcement work a whole lot easier. With ransomware, even if you can say with 100% certainty that Dmitrij Smith from St. Petersburg did it, this still doesn't get you any closer to putting said Dmitrij smith behind bars in the US. It's highly likely that you can't even interrogate / surveil the suspect, making it that much harder to see if they were acting on their own and out of pure greed or on government orders. And that's if you know who did it, cyber attack attribution is complex, and you often can't say anything with certainty.
- dralley 3y agoCall / email your congressmen and tell them to stop stalling on the Ukraine defense bill.
- ThisIsMyAltAcct 3y agoHe already wants to but he's a small fish in a big pond.
- MandieD 3y agoMine’s been too worried about losing the primary to someone who is crazy rather than merely craven like him to care what I think.
- Geisterde 3y agoHow will that help?
- cipheredStones 3y agoWhat - invading an unrelated country?
- fortran77 3y ago[flagged]
- jart 3y agoRead https://rewardsforjustice.net/rewards/foreign-malicious-cyber-activity-against-u-s-critical-infrastructure/ https://rewardsforjustice.net/rewards/foreign-malicious-cybe... and notice how the USG only cares if the hackers are acting under the direction of a foreign government. Hacking for profit sadly gains more acceptance as a legitimate form of enterprise each year, similar to corporate raiding. You can buy insurance to cover ransom payments. There's also hackers who hack into consumer PCs, routers, and phones where instead of holding you to ransom they just MiTM HTTPS to inject ads, rent out access to DDOSers, or let companies like Cox actively listen to your microphone. A lot of devices like Lenovo have been known to come pre-hacked before they even leave the factory. It's all above the board at this point. Rather than being treated as terrorists, the worst consequences you'll see for them usually is just a lawsuit.
- Geisterde 3y agoInvade a country that had nothing to do with it?
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