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Hey! I wanted to ask you something. So, I am traditionally somebody who self hosts a lot of stuff. I am not allergic to paying a fee to have something hosted b

by kn100 3y ago

Hey! I wanted to ask you something. So, I am traditionally somebody who self hosts a lot of stuff. I am not allergic to paying a fee to have something hosted by someone else - but one of my conditions to doing this is that there is an easy way to migrate away from the cloud offering should I choose to in the future. To give an example, I use Tailscale HEAVILY right across all my self hosted stuff. It is absolutely central to everything I do - and I'd find it very hard to live without it. I am totally comfortable with this because Headscale exists, which is an open source implementation of Tailscale. If for some reason Tailscale starts making decisions I don't like, or perhaps the pricing changes in a way I am not a fan of, I have the option of trading some convenience. I am really happy to see your server is open source. That is amazing news, and makes me feel a lot more interested in your product. I wanted to ask a few questions though: * Let's say I've signed up with your service, and am hosting a bunch of stuff with you. I decide after 6 months I don't like some changes to the pricing model or something. How does one get their data out of the `cloud` ente.io - and into a self hosted instance of the server? Is there any data loss during this process? * Your clients are not open source. I totally understand this. Do they however support talking to a different backend (like for example a self hosted Ente instance)? * And finally - how would you say your tool compares to the two main open source Google Photos replacements, Immich and Photoprism?

vishnumohandas 3y ago
Hey! > data out You can use our Desktop app[1] or CLI[2] to export your data, incrementally. There's a toggle within our Desktop app that will perform this operation continuously into a directory of your choosing. You can of course script the CLI however you'd like. There is no data-loss, you export what you import. > clients are not open source Our clients have always been open source. You can find them within our monorepo here[3]. Currently you have to pass a flag at build time to configure the endpoint, but there's a discussion[4] to add an option in-app instead. > Immich and Photoprism Ente comes with e2ee[5] and replication strategies[6]. The former means that we've to run ML on the Edge, while Immich and Photoprism can run ML on their servers. If your primary use case is self-hosting, Immich is the more "intelligent" option. If you value convenience, Ente is the one. [1]: https://ente.io/downloads/desktop https://ente.io/downloads/desktop [2]: https://github.com/ente-io/cli https://github.com/ente-io/cli [3]: https://github.com/ente-io/ente https://github.com/ente-io/ente [4]: https://github.com/ente-io/ente/discussions/504 https://github.com/ente-io/ente/discussions/504 [5]: https://ente.io/architecture https://ente.io/architecture [6]: https://ente.io/reliability https://ente.io/reliability
latchkey 3y ago
> How does one get their data out of the cloud ente.io - and into a self hosted instance of the server? Is there any data loss during this process? Just to jump in cause I was curious myself. I think your question is answered here: "Command Line Utility for exporting data from Ente" https://github.com/ente-io/ente/tree/main/cli https://github.com/ente-io/ente/tree/main/cli

by kn100 3y ago

vishnumohandas 3y ago

Hey! > data out You can use our Desktop app[1] or CLI[2] to export your data, incrementally. There's a toggle within our Desktop app that will perform this operation continuously into a directory of your choosing. You can of course script the CLI however you'd like. There is no data-loss, you export what you import. > clients are not open source Our clients have always been open source. You can find them within our monorepo here[3]. Currently you have to pass a flag at build time to configure the endpoint, but there's a discussion[4] to add an option in-app instead. > Immich and Photoprism Ente comes with e2ee[5] and replication strategies[6]. The former means that we've to run ML on the Edge, while Immich and Photoprism can run ML on their servers. If your primary use case is self-hosting, Immich is the more "intelligent" option. If you value convenience, Ente is the one. [1]: https://ente.io/downloads/desktop https://ente.io/downloads/desktop [2]: https://github.com/ente-io/cli https://github.com/ente-io/cli [3]: https://github.com/ente-io/ente https://github.com/ente-io/ente [4]: https://github.com/ente-io/ente/discussions/504 https://github.com/ente-io/ente/discussions/504 [5]: https://ente.io/architecture https://ente.io/architecture [6]: https://ente.io/reliability https://ente.io/reliability

latchkey 3y ago

> How does one get their data out of the cloud ente.io - and into a self hosted instance of the server? Is there any data loss during this process? Just to jump in cause I was curious myself. I think your question is answered here: "Command Line Utility for exporting data from Ente" https://github.com/ente-io/ente/tree/main/cli https://github.com/ente-io/ente/tree/main/cli