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You need to do some soul searching (or, I like punk rock, "you've got soul doubt", to quote Fat Mike)... Are you just nervous because of the news you are readi

You need to do some soul searching (or, I like punk rock, "you've got soul doubt", to quote Fat Mike)... Are you just nervous because of the news you are reading OR "my interest in webdev is still dead" Have you gone through your college career and you realized you do not like CS? You need to answer this question first. Then you have the answer... if you love CS, the the job will come. Forget what you are reading and pretend this job hunt is another algorithms or operating systems class that you need to bust your ass at and pass. If on the the other hand the flame is dead, you are getting separated and moving on to another field, well then, there is your other answer. Pretend that is another kind of problem that you have to solve and go solve it. You just went through years of problem solving school, go do it. -- Full disclosure: not trying to be mean, just trying to boil it down to simplest "if A then B" parts.

acheron 3y ago
> "my interest in webdev is still dead" > Have you gone through your college career and you realized you do not like CS? The Venn diagram of “web development” and “computer science” is two separate circles.
- EchoChamberMan 3y ago
  Wow, ivory tower treating you well I guess? [Edit] I apologize for my swipe.
  - tekla 3y ago
    No? Web Dev and Com Sci are incredibly different topics.
    - EchoChamberMan 3y ago
      He said they are a venn diagram with no overlap. I feel like that fact they both use computer programming negates that argument.
      - tekla 3y ago
        The overlap is minimal. 99.99% of web dev requires no computing, no science, no math.
        legostormtroopr 3y ago
        Yes. Web developers never tackle with caching, database query optimisation, protocol development, or data modelling. Just HTML and CSS and nothing else.
      - binary132 3y ago
        Computer programming doesn’t mean computer science.
        deleted 3y ago
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        EchoChamberMan 3y ago
        Good thing I said comp sci includes programming, and not the other way around. Feel free to enlighten us as to what comp sci and Web dev are, and why they share nothing in common. Please.
        binary132 3y ago
        Science is where you measure, analyze, and develop theories. Computer science in particular is about the design of algorithms and systems for their implementation, such as compilers and interpreters. Programming is a means of operating computer systems. Sometimes you have to operate computers to do computer science, but not always (for example algorithm design is very mathematical.) there is meaningful overlap, certainly and also, not all programming is science, certainly
- jamil7 3y ago
  You can say the same about a lot of SWD roles, even the ones considered "harder".
askhn234 3y ago
I think I do like CS, but dislike the domain I'm in. I think webdev is pretty boring, both frontend and backend. So this recent shift in the job market makes me think "So I have to go through the applying/interview grind again, this time with much fiercer competition, all for a job I won't even like?" I have always found game development more appealing (tools programming, game design and gameplay programming in particular), but chose to not go for that path, fearing that I wouldn't be able to handle such a notoriously cutthroat industry. I know that it sounds like I threw in the towel there without even trying, but for a long time I had a terrible, painful chronic condition, and it was only recently that I became closer to normal after years of trial and error with different treatments. This condition made me always strive for the "easier" path (webdev), which was a big mistake in retrospect. To be completely honest, CS is definitely not my biggest passion, but it's the next best thing. From early on in my childhood dream was music and storytelling, always. My dad was strongly opposed to me pursuing it as anything other than a hobby. I think he was right, and I'm still glad he stopped me from enrolling in music school (twice...). Sorry, I'm just kind of rambling about personal stuff here, but your comment made me think a lot. Thanks for the reply.
- ummonk 3y ago
  Have you considered doing webdev for a business in the entertainment industry? Anything from small organizations You' to large like Disney. You wouldn't get paid the big FAANG bucks but you'd be able to make a living off your education while remaining connected to your other passion.
- prossercj 3y ago
  You remind me a bit of myself. I work in web development now, but took some games classes in college and thought I might go that route for a time. My true passion has always been poetry. Here's my advice. Don't look for fulfillment from your job. It pays the bills, and if you don't hate it, consider that a blessing. Find something that occupies you only from 9 to 5 (plenty of web dev jobs like that), and use your free time to pursue the the music and storytelling that you really love. You would stop loving them if you had to do them for money. Might actually be better to do something that you don't love for money. I know this is the opposite of what they say at school, but it's what I find in my own career. You can't hate it, but it may be better not to love it too much. Best of luck.

acheron 3y ago

> "my interest in webdev is still dead" > Have you gone through your college career and you realized you do not like CS? The Venn diagram of “web development” and “computer science” is two separate circles.

EchoChamberMan 3y ago
Wow, ivory tower treating you well I guess? [Edit] I apologize for my swipe.
- tekla 3y ago
  No? Web Dev and Com Sci are incredibly different topics.
  - EchoChamberMan 3y ago
    He said they are a venn diagram with no overlap. I feel like that fact they both use computer programming negates that argument.
    - tekla 3y ago
      The overlap is minimal. 99.99% of web dev requires no computing, no science, no math.
      - legostormtroopr 3y ago
        Yes. Web developers never tackle with caching, database query optimisation, protocol development, or data modelling. Just HTML and CSS and nothing else.
    - binary132 3y ago
      Computer programming doesn’t mean computer science.
      - deleted 3y ago
        [deleted]
      - EchoChamberMan 3y ago
        Good thing I said comp sci includes programming, and not the other way around. Feel free to enlighten us as to what comp sci and Web dev are, and why they share nothing in common. Please.
        binary132 3y ago
        Science is where you measure, analyze, and develop theories. Computer science in particular is about the design of algorithms and systems for their implementation, such as compilers and interpreters. Programming is a means of operating computer systems. Sometimes you have to operate computers to do computer science, but not always (for example algorithm design is very mathematical.) there is meaningful overlap, certainly and also, not all programming is science, certainly
jamil7 3y ago
You can say the same about a lot of SWD roles, even the ones considered "harder".

askhn234 3y ago

I think I do like CS, but dislike the domain I'm in. I think webdev is pretty boring, both frontend and backend. So this recent shift in the job market makes me think "So I have to go through the applying/interview grind again, this time with much fiercer competition, all for a job I won't even like?" I have always found game development more appealing (tools programming, game design and gameplay programming in particular), but chose to not go for that path, fearing that I wouldn't be able to handle such a notoriously cutthroat industry. I know that it sounds like I threw in the towel there without even trying, but for a long time I had a terrible, painful chronic condition, and it was only recently that I became closer to normal after years of trial and error with different treatments. This condition made me always strive for the "easier" path (webdev), which was a big mistake in retrospect. To be completely honest, CS is definitely not my biggest passion, but it's the next best thing. From early on in my childhood dream was music and storytelling, always. My dad was strongly opposed to me pursuing it as anything other than a hobby. I think he was right, and I'm still glad he stopped me from enrolling in music school (twice...). Sorry, I'm just kind of rambling about personal stuff here, but your comment made me think a lot. Thanks for the reply.

ummonk 3y ago
Have you considered doing webdev for a business in the entertainment industry? Anything from small organizations You' to large like Disney. You wouldn't get paid the big FAANG bucks but you'd be able to make a living off your education while remaining connected to your other passion.
prossercj 3y ago
You remind me a bit of myself. I work in web development now, but took some games classes in college and thought I might go that route for a time. My true passion has always been poetry. Here's my advice. Don't look for fulfillment from your job. It pays the bills, and if you don't hate it, consider that a blessing. Find something that occupies you only from 9 to 5 (plenty of web dev jobs like that), and use your free time to pursue the the music and storytelling that you really love. You would stop loving them if you had to do them for money. Might actually be better to do something that you don't love for money. I know this is the opposite of what they say at school, but it's what I find in my own career. You can't hate it, but it may be better not to love it too much. Best of luck.