There's the zero-interest-rate era and the post-zero-interest-rate era. I think there's still going to be adjustments to come, and it will get a little better a

There's the zero-interest-rate era and the post-zero-interest-rate era. I think there's still going to be adjustments to come, and it will get a little better as orgs get more used to working in a PZIR environment, but I don't think it'll ever be like the peak ZIR hiring situation unless we get back down to zero interest rates.