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> It still boggles my mind how we managed to make it so politicized. Having been raised by 2 Republican extremists, I can tell you exactly why it was so politi

by pierat 3y ago

> It still boggles my mind how we managed to make it so politicized. Having been raised by 2 Republican extremists, I can tell you exactly why it was so politicized: 1. "YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO!" Is the refrain of government telling people what to do or not. And remember, that corporations are legally people, so the same applies. 2. Higher education leads to 'librul ideas', with things like gay people should have the same rights as straights, racism is still a thing, and other higher thinking. And this 'education' is seen as indoctrination. 3. Because of disdain for higher education (which is seen as indoctrination), comes the idea that "My upbringing is worth just as much as your book knowledge", throwing away bodies of evidence. Journals are equivalent to scribbles.

lurking15 3y ago
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- pierat 3y ago
  When you say "DEI is an indoctrination theory", I read instead that you are against treating people with respect and dignity. That's basically what the whole of DEI actually is. And if treating people of all walks of life is "radical leftist politics", I'd hate to know what your politics are. I have my guesses. And that "critical theory" you also espouse? Yeah, it's called history. And yeah, history is 'uncomfortable', especially when talking about oppressors/oppressed, like wars, apartheid, Jim Crow. Basically, this is just republicans wanting their own 'safe space' when they bemoan how the lefties want their safe space.... Except the republicans demand that their safe space is anywhere they are. Arrogance at its finest, really. Then again, I grew up with the traditional Republican brainwashing crap. If you can't teach yourself, nobody can help you.
  - lurking15 3y ago
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    - pierat 3y ago
      >> When you say "DEI is an indoctrination theory", I read instead that you are against treating people with respect and dignity. > You're reading that wrong then. Seems like leftists will often interpret disagreement as evidence of evil. You didn't even define DEI. I summarized a definition, as "treating people with respect and dignity". I'd be glad to hear your definition and/or a summary of what "diversity, equity, inclusion" means. Cause so far, you attack it because that is the programmed Republican/conservative response. It's basically a conditioned 2 minute hate ala 1984. > This is an incredibly supercilious attitude that's far too common on the left. "Reality has a liberal bias", etc. that doesn't even offer the possibility of reasonable disagreement. I never said anything about 'reality has a liberal bias'. What I did say was that Republican/closed minded types have a real problem with studying history and for seeing evidence of how things happened. Historians also vehemently disagree with each other. And many a times, new evidence is found that changes what we thought the history was. Again, this is science, not some liberal indoctrination ground. > Sorry if your upbringing was bad, but you've somehow replaced it with something far worse, close-minded & intolerant. Closed minded? Yawn. Can we at least get away from the usual Republican vs Democrat yell-at tropes? If I wanted that, I'd have stayed at Xitter.

by pierat 3y ago

lurking15 3y ago

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pierat 3y ago
When you say "DEI is an indoctrination theory", I read instead that you are against treating people with respect and dignity. That's basically what the whole of DEI actually is. And if treating people of all walks of life is "radical leftist politics", I'd hate to know what your politics are. I have my guesses. And that "critical theory" you also espouse? Yeah, it's called history. And yeah, history is 'uncomfortable', especially when talking about oppressors/oppressed, like wars, apartheid, Jim Crow. Basically, this is just republicans wanting their own 'safe space' when they bemoan how the lefties want their safe space.... Except the republicans demand that their safe space is anywhere they are. Arrogance at its finest, really. Then again, I grew up with the traditional Republican brainwashing crap. If you can't teach yourself, nobody can help you.
- lurking15 3y ago
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  - pierat 3y ago
    >> When you say "DEI is an indoctrination theory", I read instead that you are against treating people with respect and dignity. > You're reading that wrong then. Seems like leftists will often interpret disagreement as evidence of evil. You didn't even define DEI. I summarized a definition, as "treating people with respect and dignity". I'd be glad to hear your definition and/or a summary of what "diversity, equity, inclusion" means. Cause so far, you attack it because that is the programmed Republican/conservative response. It's basically a conditioned 2 minute hate ala 1984. > This is an incredibly supercilious attitude that's far too common on the left. "Reality has a liberal bias", etc. that doesn't even offer the possibility of reasonable disagreement. I never said anything about 'reality has a liberal bias'. What I did say was that Republican/closed minded types have a real problem with studying history and for seeing evidence of how things happened. Historians also vehemently disagree with each other. And many a times, new evidence is found that changes what we thought the history was. Again, this is science, not some liberal indoctrination ground. > Sorry if your upbringing was bad, but you've somehow replaced it with something far worse, close-minded & intolerant. Closed minded? Yawn. Can we at least get away from the usual Republican vs Democrat yell-at tropes? If I wanted that, I'd have stayed at Xitter.