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This is why I also think return to office is insane. I'm fully remote thankfully and haven't had covid. But I have seen many getting sick from coworkers becau

This is why I also think return to office is insane. I'm fully remote thankfully and haven't had covid. But I have seen many getting sick from coworkers because they feel a need to go in even when sick..

tebbers 3y ago
The reverse of that argument is that if you work from home, your immune system doesn’t have a chance to learn about the newest bugs and so you’re more vulnerable in the future.
- sleigh-bells 3y ago
  Or if you work from home and never go out to restaurants or do anything that you need to be unmasked and around other people for (or hang out indoors unmasked with anyone who does such things), the social isolation can be pretty bad too. I guess there's no real incentive to run studies about that but I bet they'd show all sorts of ill effects of essentially locking down in perpetuity. ...or you're just fine catching covid outside of work but it's so much worse to catch it in an office
- jmspring 3y ago
  I still go out and about and have a step daughter in high school, so plenty of exposure. I just don't need to sit in a building that likely has insufficient / old hvac/etc. I just consider myself lucky I don't need to sit around a bunch of people for hours on end multiple days a week.
- gnicholas 3y ago
  Anecdote: a family member of mine is very COVID cautious and still hasn't had it due to long-term isolation. When he started seeing people a bit, so long as they had tested negative recently, he got sick from someone in my family who had a mild cold. It completely knocked him out, and he said it was one of the top 3 illnesses he could remember (he's a senior citizen). I wondered if the impact it had on him was due to the fact that he hadn't been exposed to anything (no groceries, no offices, no malls) in 3 years.
  - jmspring 3y ago
    I'm no where near a germ phobe, but prefer how and when I interact with people. Just last weekend I was at a dinner theater in Ashland. I think complete isolation could indeed have an impact. Another thing that I think we will see down the road is more super bugs due to the overuse of sanitizer during that period as well.
- PaulKeeble 3y ago
  The immune system and the body is only degraded by infections. Its not like a muscle and immunity debt is a concept introduced in 2021 by the anti vaccine movement. It has no science supporting the concept. Far from it infact we know every infection in our lives does damage and ultimately its a large part of what kills us in time. It was unfortunately a lie that has become mainstream "knowledge", its not medically sound at all. At the UK inquiry the Chief Medical Officer made the point that pursuing herd immunity via infection is deeply flawed and highly unethical. Given the population has gained little actual immunity to the virus so far and it continues to circulate all year around and has so disabled over 100 million people and killed at least 28 million and every week kills many thousands in the US its not going to stop. Covid is the third biggest killer in the world currently and the death count associated with it due to a massive reduction in testing is unfortunately enormously undercounted especially with the increase in heart attacks and strokes which Covid causes due to its vascular impact.

tebbers 3y ago

The reverse of that argument is that if you work from home, your immune system doesn’t have a chance to learn about the newest bugs and so you’re more vulnerable in the future.

sleigh-bells 3y ago
Or if you work from home and never go out to restaurants or do anything that you need to be unmasked and around other people for (or hang out indoors unmasked with anyone who does such things), the social isolation can be pretty bad too. I guess there's no real incentive to run studies about that but I bet they'd show all sorts of ill effects of essentially locking down in perpetuity. ...or you're just fine catching covid outside of work but it's so much worse to catch it in an office
jmspring 3y ago
I still go out and about and have a step daughter in high school, so plenty of exposure. I just don't need to sit in a building that likely has insufficient / old hvac/etc. I just consider myself lucky I don't need to sit around a bunch of people for hours on end multiple days a week.
gnicholas 3y ago
Anecdote: a family member of mine is very COVID cautious and still hasn't had it due to long-term isolation. When he started seeing people a bit, so long as they had tested negative recently, he got sick from someone in my family who had a mild cold. It completely knocked him out, and he said it was one of the top 3 illnesses he could remember (he's a senior citizen). I wondered if the impact it had on him was due to the fact that he hadn't been exposed to anything (no groceries, no offices, no malls) in 3 years.
- jmspring 3y ago
  I'm no where near a germ phobe, but prefer how and when I interact with people. Just last weekend I was at a dinner theater in Ashland. I think complete isolation could indeed have an impact. Another thing that I think we will see down the road is more super bugs due to the overuse of sanitizer during that period as well.
PaulKeeble 3y ago
The immune system and the body is only degraded by infections. Its not like a muscle and immunity debt is a concept introduced in 2021 by the anti vaccine movement. It has no science supporting the concept. Far from it infact we know every infection in our lives does damage and ultimately its a large part of what kills us in time. It was unfortunately a lie that has become mainstream "knowledge", its not medically sound at all. At the UK inquiry the Chief Medical Officer made the point that pursuing herd immunity via infection is deeply flawed and highly unethical. Given the population has gained little actual immunity to the virus so far and it continues to circulate all year around and has so disabled over 100 million people and killed at least 28 million and every week kills many thousands in the US its not going to stop. Covid is the third biggest killer in the world currently and the death count associated with it due to a massive reduction in testing is unfortunately enormously undercounted especially with the increase in heart attacks and strokes which Covid causes due to its vascular impact.