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But in this case, people outside the Apple ecosystem are literally asking for legislation as to how Apple should operate. Your statement would make more sense

by dagmx 3y ago

But in this case, people outside the Apple ecosystem are literally asking for legislation as to how Apple should operate. Your statement would make more sense if inverted? That people within the Apple ecosystem aren’t trying to change how Samsung or Google operate

lolinder 3y ago
No, the OP I'm quoting is an Apple user [0], as is almost everyone who complains about Apple's rules on HN. Most Android users don't care because it doesn't affect them. The way these discussions usually go is that a bunch of Apple users complain about the restrictions, a bunch of Apple users say they like them, and a few Android users like myself remind the complainers that there are, in fact, other options that don't involve forcing Apple to take away the rules that most iOS users appreciate having. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37632607 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37632607
- dagmx 3y ago
  So what if they’re an iPhone user? The topic at hand is about legislation coming from outside the Apple ecosystem. It doesn’t matter if it’s Android or a politician. The rest of your post reads like you just have a general deep seated disdain for Apple users.
  - lolinder 3y ago
    > So what if they’re an iPhone user? The topic at hand is about legislation coming from outside the Apple ecosystem. It doesn’t matter if it’s Android or a politician. I'm not talking about the EU law and neither was OP—OP is proposing a clause that they would like future laws to include, a clause that doesn't actually exist in any real regulation. I'm talking about their proposal and similar proposals coming from other random commenters on HN who overwhelming are within the Apple ecosystem. > The rest of your post reads like you just have a general deep seated disdain for Apple users. Not at all! There are plenty of good reasons to choose Apple. One of the biggest reasons is that they provide an extremely integrated and curated experience, which is really valuable for most smartphone users. What I disapprove of is people who try to pretend that they have no choice but to buy an iPhone and then attempt to force Apple to fundamentally alter the product they're offering (which, again, most of their customers enjoy) when there are already valid options out there that serve their need for absolute user freedom.
    - dagmx 3y ago
      Ah I see where you’re coming from. Thanks for the clarification.

by dagmx 3y ago

lolinder 3y ago

No, the OP I'm quoting is an Apple user [0], as is almost everyone who complains about Apple's rules on HN. Most Android users don't care because it doesn't affect them. The way these discussions usually go is that a bunch of Apple users complain about the restrictions, a bunch of Apple users say they like them, and a few Android users like myself remind the complainers that there are, in fact, other options that don't involve forcing Apple to take away the rules that most iOS users appreciate having. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37632607 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37632607

dagmx 3y ago
So what if they’re an iPhone user? The topic at hand is about legislation coming from outside the Apple ecosystem. It doesn’t matter if it’s Android or a politician. The rest of your post reads like you just have a general deep seated disdain for Apple users.
- lolinder 3y ago
  > So what if they’re an iPhone user? The topic at hand is about legislation coming from outside the Apple ecosystem. It doesn’t matter if it’s Android or a politician. I'm not talking about the EU law and neither was OP—OP is proposing a clause that they would like future laws to include, a clause that doesn't actually exist in any real regulation. I'm talking about their proposal and similar proposals coming from other random commenters on HN who overwhelming are within the Apple ecosystem. > The rest of your post reads like you just have a general deep seated disdain for Apple users. Not at all! There are plenty of good reasons to choose Apple. One of the biggest reasons is that they provide an extremely integrated and curated experience, which is really valuable for most smartphone users. What I disapprove of is people who try to pretend that they have no choice but to buy an iPhone and then attempt to force Apple to fundamentally alter the product they're offering (which, again, most of their customers enjoy) when there are already valid options out there that serve their need for absolute user freedom.
  - dagmx 3y ago
    Ah I see where you’re coming from. Thanks for the clarification.