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In the meantime, as clear regulations take time, we need consumers to step in. Just stop buying and using Apple products. Hitting their bottom line is much mo
by _heimdall 3y ago
In the meantime, as clear regulations take time, we need consumers to step in.
Just stop buying and using Apple products.
Hitting their bottom line is much more effective than waiting for governments to step in.
- pcdoodle 3y agoThis. I want a M series but instead I bought a used 2019 intel on ebay. You can get a 2019 16" for around $440 right now and the screen and speakers are amazing :) Been gaming on it too. Buying this far down the chain keeps the dollars out of apples pockets.
- Our_Benefactors 3y agoWould not recommend. These intel MacBooks are awful. They’re so cheap because every person that had one dumped them as soon as possible for M1/M2 machines.
- gmerc 3y agoAnd give an even worse google the bottom line?
- lolinder 3y agoBuying an Android phone from a non-Google manufacturer gives much less money to Google than buying an Apple phone gives to Apple. Most here have the technical skills to follow that up by installing F-Droid and thereby avoid paying Google anything through the Play Store or ads. Also, the mere fact that that is possible sheds some doubt on the assertion that Google is worse than Apple, at least if we're looking at the user freedoms advocated for by the top-level commenter.
- _heimdall 3y agoUnpopular opinion, but not having a phone is also an option.
- bertman 3y ago>we need consumers to step in >Just stop buying I cannot remember a single time this actually happened at a noticable scale as a response to a tech company's anti-competitive shenanigans.
- lolinder 3y agoTrue, but from what I've observed most of the people on threads like this decrying Apple's behavior are regular Apple customers who wish they could have the freedoms that exist outside of the Apple world while still having all the perks of buying Apple. These people are keenly aware of the problems they have with Apple and yet they inexplicably feel completely disempowered to do anything about it. They shouldn't switch to try to hurt Apple's bottom line (it won't in those quantities), but they should switch to get the freedoms they feel are so important. Android + F-Droid are a thing. If you want to get really fancy you can even install a Google-free ROM, but that's hardly necessary to gain the freedoms that Apple denies you.
- dagmx 3y ago> freedoms that exist outside of the Apple world while still having all the perks of buying Apple Doesn’t that tell you instead that the latter is a higher priority? It’s not like the inverse isn’t true as well. People outside the Apple ecosystem who want the benefits. They make the opposite priority call.
- lolinder 3y agoYes, but those of us outside of the Apple ecosystem don't try to introduce legislation that requires Samsung to sell phones with metal cases or that requires Google to improve the UX coherence of Android. We look at the options and make the judgement call.
- dagmx 3y agoWhat on earth are you referring to?