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>> If we can agree unions are a good thing then both the high and low paying employees should have access to and use unions. That's exactly the kind of privile

>> If we can agree unions are a good thing then both the high and low paying employees should have access to and use unions. That's exactly the kind of privileged talk I would expect from someone who never had it rough in live. No, living on minimum wage doing shitwork is not the same as high paid pampered worker.

tifik 3y ago
>living on minimum wage doing shitwork is not the same as high paid pampered worker. I don't see anyone claiming they are the same. Parent says both deserve the same rights, including the right to enter a union. Granted, there is a clear disparity in what either group can potentially gain from it.
LightFog 3y ago
This kind of mentality does someone in the tougher position no good. Higher paid or more established employees joining a union will likely be making sacrifices to help more vulnerable colleagues in the name of solidarity. The alternative is division which an employer (or group of employers) will take with open arms.
eesmith 3y ago
> No, living on minimum wage doing shitwork is not the same as high paid pampered worker. Where do you see that these union members are "high paid pampered workers" who are "delicate snowflakes with countless perks and baristas at their service"? At https://www.alphabetworkersunion.org/press/youtube-music-contract-workers-unionize-with-alphabet-workers-union-cwa-file-petition-with-nlrb-to-win-bargaining-rights https://www.alphabetworkersunion.org/press/youtube-music-con... I read "We are so proud to stand together to demand that our employers give us the basic dignity of a living wage, so that we can continue to enjoy living and working in our community that has become nearly impossible to afford–due in part to big technology companies relocating their headquarters here." I don't think high paid pampered workers would call for a living wage, so I don't think you are talking about these employees. At https://www.alphabetworkersunion.org/press/youtube-music-workers-hold-unfair-labor-practice-strike-as-google-refuses-to-bargain-ignores-nlrb https://www.alphabetworkersunion.org/press/youtube-music-wor... I read complaints about "Google and Cognizant’s unlawful refusal to bargain." You can't really believe that if you employer pays you well that means you employer gets to break the law, do you? It also points out "Currently, 10% of the YouTube Music Content Operations Team has COVID. Yet, in the midst of this outbreak, Cognizant and Google are denying workers access to COVID tests, paid COVID leave or even the flexibility to safely work from home. This is counter to the policies Google sets for its main office buildings." suggesting that your views about how Google employees are treated aren't relevant to these union members, who are treated different than the highly-paid engineers at the Googleplex.

tifik 3y ago

>living on minimum wage doing shitwork is not the same as high paid pampered worker. I don't see anyone claiming they are the same. Parent says both deserve the same rights, including the right to enter a union. Granted, there is a clear disparity in what either group can potentially gain from it.

LightFog 3y ago

This kind of mentality does someone in the tougher position no good. Higher paid or more established employees joining a union will likely be making sacrifices to help more vulnerable colleagues in the name of solidarity. The alternative is division which an employer (or group of employers) will take with open arms.

eesmith 3y ago

> No, living on minimum wage doing shitwork is not the same as high paid pampered worker. Where do you see that these union members are "high paid pampered workers" who are "delicate snowflakes with countless perks and baristas at their service"? At https://www.alphabetworkersunion.org/press/youtube-music-contract-workers-unionize-with-alphabet-workers-union-cwa-file-petition-with-nlrb-to-win-bargaining-rights https://www.alphabetworkersunion.org/press/youtube-music-con... I read "We are so proud to stand together to demand that our employers give us the basic dignity of a living wage, so that we can continue to enjoy living and working in our community that has become nearly impossible to afford–due in part to big technology companies relocating their headquarters here." I don't think high paid pampered workers would call for a living wage, so I don't think you are talking about these employees. At https://www.alphabetworkersunion.org/press/youtube-music-workers-hold-unfair-labor-practice-strike-as-google-refuses-to-bargain-ignores-nlrb https://www.alphabetworkersunion.org/press/youtube-music-wor... I read complaints about "Google and Cognizant’s unlawful refusal to bargain." You can't really believe that if you employer pays you well that means you employer gets to break the law, do you? It also points out "Currently, 10% of the YouTube Music Content Operations Team has COVID. Yet, in the midst of this outbreak, Cognizant and Google are denying workers access to COVID tests, paid COVID leave or even the flexibility to safely work from home. This is counter to the policies Google sets for its main office buildings." suggesting that your views about how Google employees are treated aren't relevant to these union members, who are treated different than the highly-paid engineers at the Googleplex.