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The UI looks great. Couldn't find any info about self hosting but I did find a feature request in GitHub Issues [1]. I guess I'll stick with Immich [2] for now

by bovem 3y ago

The UI looks great. Couldn't find any info about self hosting but I did find a feature request in GitHub Issues [1]. I guess I'll stick with Immich [2] for now. Edit: Found a Reddit AMA [3] from the CEO and I'm happy to know that self hosting is a goal in the long run. [1] https://github.com/ente-io/ente/issues/141 https://github.com/ente-io/ente/issues/141 [2] https://immich.app/ https://immich.app/ [3] https://old.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/116fx9v/ama_im_vishnu_ceo_of_enteio_e2ee_alternative_to/j96yu1p/ https://old.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/116fx9v/ama_im_vi...

mavamaarten 3y ago
I'm really happy with immich. It's amazing how well everything works and how feature-complete it is given how relatively young the project is and fast-moving development is going. I self-host an instance and do a nightly backup with duplicati to cloud storage. The only downside for me is that there's a new release almost every couple of days, with a message that the backend is out of date. Which is both a pro and a con, but for me it's anxiety inducing because there's breaking changes sometimes and you can't just auto-update. A pace like Home Assistant feels more comfortable.
- dspillett 3y ago
  I've been looking at immich and seen similar concerns about the update regularity, but that is due to it being a relatively young project. That it has come so far quickly is a good sign, as long as the release cycle becomes slower and more regimented as it approaches a certain level of maturity.
- xrd 3y ago
  Me too. It is frustrating to see an update to the app and then have the app indicate it is out of date. But generally it still works, and upgrading the server has always been nothing more than changing the docker image tag and restarting. It's an incredible project.
  - f3d46600-b66e 3y ago
    Perhaps you have not noticed release notes. There were bunch of releases where you had to change the docker compose file, and you can't just apply updates automatically to immich.
- ikari_pl 3y ago
  does it, by any chance, do search by any keywords and grouping the same face together, like Google Photos?
  - darkwater 3y ago
    Yes, it does. You can also search for terms like "pizza" or "beach with palms"
- BodyCulture 3y ago
  Manual action is needed for an update? Why not let the computer do this instead?
- js4ever 3y ago
  I can confirm there is a breaking change literally every single week, check here: https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/7405#discussioncomment-8582708 https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/7405#discus... It's a great software but I would not recommend it at all because of this and the answer from the authors about the issue
  - Jnr 3y ago
    I have 600GB of data with 70K+ photos and videos in Immich. I have been using it for some time now, and none of the "breaking changes" broke anything because they have excellent release notes. Worst case - you can restore your postgre backup (which you make, right?) and try again, reading release notes. I make backups and I read release notes, luckily didn't need to do a restore yet.
    - f3d46600-b66e 3y ago
      I have 5TB with a few hundred thousand pics in immich, and unfortunately opening the mobile app is slow (it loads some state from the server and that takes forever...)
    - account42 3y ago
      > Worst case - you can restore your postgre backup (which you make, right?) and try again, reading release notes. I make backups and I read release notes, luckily didn't need to do a restore yet. That sounds pretty horrible tbh. Yeah you should make backups and read release note but if the software regularly needs some manual action then that becomes tiring pretty quickly when you host enough different services. Backups and manual intervention for upgrades should be for exceptional cases.
- sanex 3y ago
  Been running immich for a while but haven't dropped my Google photos just to make sure I can manage immich and not lose everything. Updated from 1.8.something to 1.9something which includes a big db rework and lost all my user accounts. I imagine the photos are still in there somewhere but i haven't dug in yet so they're effectively gone. Lost a lot of trust for me with that even though it was probably my fault.
  - raudette 3y ago
    This one got me too - check out: https://github.com/immich-app/immich/issues/5907 https://github.com/immich-app/immich/issues/5907 Running REINDEX TABLE USERS; on the DB solved the issue for me. Immich is definitely fast moving - it is awesome, but has been a challenge to keep it current.
  - patmorgan23 3y ago
    Yeah I think immich recommends keeping a separate archive for anything you care about.
    - nsteel 3y ago
      It most definitely does. There's a big banner at the top of their website: The project is under very active development. Expect bugs and changes. Do not use it as the only way to store your photos and videos
  - nirav72 3y ago
    I keep seeing immich mentioned a lot in selfhosting community. Is there a mobile app that can connect to the selfhosted backend server?
    - cmrdporcupine 3y ago
      yes. And even an Android TV app in dev, too. I self-host on my own local server on my LAN (an RK3588 ARM SoC board running in a cigar box...) and expose it to the app via Tailscale when I'm out and about. Works great Though I still back up to Google Photos as well
judiisis 3y ago
They today open sourced their server which can now be selfhosted https://ente.io/blog/open-sourcing-our-server/ https://ente.io/blog/open-sourcing-our-server/
- pants2 3y ago
  It's not clear from downloading the mobile app how one would point it to the self-hosted server. I would gladly pay $10-20/mo for Ente apps to use my own backend. Unfortunately I have around 8TB of photos so paying for a storage plan is out of the question.
  - semiquaver 3y ago
    This is my question. I don’t actually see any statements from the company here or in the post that you can actually self-host and point the app at your server. The app dumps you in a mandatory sign-up flow with no server url setting possible. It seems more likely this is only open source for audit/transparency purposes. It’s absolutely their right to do this, but they should make it clear.
  - vishnumohandas 3y ago
    This is currently only supported via build flags. Addition of an option in-app is being discussed @ https://github.com/ente-io/ente/discussions/504 https://github.com/ente-io/ente/discussions/504
moelf 3y ago
come here to say Immich is absolutely great, the advanced search that landed recently is a game changer combined with semantic search: https://github.com/immich-app/immich/releases/tag/v1.96.0 https://github.com/immich-app/immich/releases/tag/v1.96.0

by bovem 3y ago

mavamaarten 3y ago

I'm really happy with immich. It's amazing how well everything works and how feature-complete it is given how relatively young the project is and fast-moving development is going. I self-host an instance and do a nightly backup with duplicati to cloud storage. The only downside for me is that there's a new release almost every couple of days, with a message that the backend is out of date. Which is both a pro and a con, but for me it's anxiety inducing because there's breaking changes sometimes and you can't just auto-update. A pace like Home Assistant feels more comfortable.

dspillett 3y ago
I've been looking at immich and seen similar concerns about the update regularity, but that is due to it being a relatively young project. That it has come so far quickly is a good sign, as long as the release cycle becomes slower and more regimented as it approaches a certain level of maturity.
xrd 3y ago
Me too. It is frustrating to see an update to the app and then have the app indicate it is out of date. But generally it still works, and upgrading the server has always been nothing more than changing the docker image tag and restarting. It's an incredible project.
- f3d46600-b66e 3y ago
  Perhaps you have not noticed release notes. There were bunch of releases where you had to change the docker compose file, and you can't just apply updates automatically to immich.
ikari_pl 3y ago
does it, by any chance, do search by any keywords and grouping the same face together, like Google Photos?
- darkwater 3y ago
  Yes, it does. You can also search for terms like "pizza" or "beach with palms"
BodyCulture 3y ago
Manual action is needed for an update? Why not let the computer do this instead?
js4ever 3y ago
I can confirm there is a breaking change literally every single week, check here: https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/7405#discussioncomment-8582708 https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/7405#discus... It's a great software but I would not recommend it at all because of this and the answer from the authors about the issue
- Jnr 3y ago
  I have 600GB of data with 70K+ photos and videos in Immich. I have been using it for some time now, and none of the "breaking changes" broke anything because they have excellent release notes. Worst case - you can restore your postgre backup (which you make, right?) and try again, reading release notes. I make backups and I read release notes, luckily didn't need to do a restore yet.
  - f3d46600-b66e 3y ago
    I have 5TB with a few hundred thousand pics in immich, and unfortunately opening the mobile app is slow (it loads some state from the server and that takes forever...)
  - account42 3y ago
    > Worst case - you can restore your postgre backup (which you make, right?) and try again, reading release notes. I make backups and I read release notes, luckily didn't need to do a restore yet. That sounds pretty horrible tbh. Yeah you should make backups and read release note but if the software regularly needs some manual action then that becomes tiring pretty quickly when you host enough different services. Backups and manual intervention for upgrades should be for exceptional cases.
sanex 3y ago
Been running immich for a while but haven't dropped my Google photos just to make sure I can manage immich and not lose everything. Updated from 1.8.something to 1.9something which includes a big db rework and lost all my user accounts. I imagine the photos are still in there somewhere but i haven't dug in yet so they're effectively gone. Lost a lot of trust for me with that even though it was probably my fault.
- raudette 3y ago
  This one got me too - check out: https://github.com/immich-app/immich/issues/5907 https://github.com/immich-app/immich/issues/5907 Running REINDEX TABLE USERS; on the DB solved the issue for me. Immich is definitely fast moving - it is awesome, but has been a challenge to keep it current.
- patmorgan23 3y ago
  Yeah I think immich recommends keeping a separate archive for anything you care about.
  - nsteel 3y ago
    It most definitely does. There's a big banner at the top of their website: The project is under very active development. Expect bugs and changes. Do not use it as the only way to store your photos and videos
- nirav72 3y ago
  I keep seeing immich mentioned a lot in selfhosting community. Is there a mobile app that can connect to the selfhosted backend server?
  - cmrdporcupine 3y ago
    yes. And even an Android TV app in dev, too. I self-host on my own local server on my LAN (an RK3588 ARM SoC board running in a cigar box...) and expose it to the app via Tailscale when I'm out and about. Works great Though I still back up to Google Photos as well

judiisis 3y ago

They today open sourced their server which can now be selfhosted https://ente.io/blog/open-sourcing-our-server/ https://ente.io/blog/open-sourcing-our-server/

pants2 3y ago
It's not clear from downloading the mobile app how one would point it to the self-hosted server. I would gladly pay $10-20/mo for Ente apps to use my own backend. Unfortunately I have around 8TB of photos so paying for a storage plan is out of the question.
- semiquaver 3y ago
  This is my question. I don’t actually see any statements from the company here or in the post that you can actually self-host and point the app at your server. The app dumps you in a mandatory sign-up flow with no server url setting possible. It seems more likely this is only open source for audit/transparency purposes. It’s absolutely their right to do this, but they should make it clear.
- vishnumohandas 3y ago
  This is currently only supported via build flags. Addition of an option in-app is being discussed @ https://github.com/ente-io/ente/discussions/504 https://github.com/ente-io/ente/discussions/504

moelf 3y ago

come here to say Immich is absolutely great, the advanced search that landed recently is a game changer combined with semantic search: https://github.com/immich-app/immich/releases/tag/v1.96.0 https://github.com/immich-app/immich/releases/tag/v1.96.0