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Interesting, that wasn't it. C o m m a . a i

defrost 3y ago
Good catch, I should try Comma.ai and see how I fare. Addendum: 10 minutes in and no apparent bot activity; might be timezones, might be limited to a follow bot that's on your tail seeing as you're kind of a bigger name than I am.
- jedberg 3y ago
  Yeah I haven't mentioned Comma.ai and OpenPilot in a while. Let's see what happens! Edit: So far so good 17 minutes later. Perhaps the bot is dead! Or it was a person doing it who is sleeping. :)
  - defrost 3y ago
    I've not mentioned OpenPilot at all .. so let's ANOVA test this puppy. Edit: Ditto, 22 minutes and no up or down activity. Clearly we're dealing with bots that can pass the Turing Test :/
    - nottorp 3y ago
      Eh, it was just some fanatic that got tired / found a new religion.
    - INGSOCIALITE 3y ago
      must be one of those new nexus 9 models
  - verisimi 3y ago
    I think what you say about downvotes is true. Eg a comment will be popular one minute, and then suddenly it's not. I also get the issue that my overall karma goes down, while recent comment values stay the same - which could be malicious downvoting of historical comments. So, I think something odd goes on. I comment a lot, generally thoughtful comments, and yet my total karma over the past year is way down. I'm interested to hear what you think it could be. As users we have no visibility of downvotes, who gave them etc. You say bots or people - do you have any reason for thinking this? I'm interested to hear more info, if you have any thoughts.
    - thaumasiotes 3y ago
      > I also get the issue that my overall karma goes down, while recent comment values stay the same - which could be malicious downvoting of historical comments. Historical comments can't be downvoted, or at least the UI doesn't allow it.
      - verisimi 3y ago
        It allows it for 1 month.
        Thiez 3y ago
        Really? To me the UI only shows the down-arrow for 1 day. If the API allows downvoting for up to 1 month then automated 'revenge' downvote bots should be easy to detect.
        verisimi 3y ago
        Using this site, I created a custom range search. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=custom&page=1&prefix=true&query=JavaScript%20&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=custom&page=1&prefix=true&... For comments less than 1 month, I see the option to upvote, for older comments I don't. How do you think I can detect votes from a 'revenge bot'?
        thaumasiotes 3y ago
        Were you worried about the 'revenge bot' upvoting you, or downvoting you?
        verisimi 3y ago
        I want to know what factors are in play in managing information on this site.
        3y ago

Good catch, I should try Comma.ai and see how I fare. Addendum: 10 minutes in and no apparent bot activity; might be timezones, might be limited to a follow bot that's on your tail seeing as you're kind of a bigger name than I am.

jedberg 3y ago
Yeah I haven't mentioned Comma.ai and OpenPilot in a while. Let's see what happens! Edit: So far so good 17 minutes later. Perhaps the bot is dead! Or it was a person doing it who is sleeping. :)
- defrost 3y ago
  I've not mentioned OpenPilot at all .. so let's ANOVA test this puppy. Edit: Ditto, 22 minutes and no up or down activity. Clearly we're dealing with bots that can pass the Turing Test :/
  - nottorp 3y ago
    Eh, it was just some fanatic that got tired / found a new religion.
  - INGSOCIALITE 3y ago
    must be one of those new nexus 9 models
- verisimi 3y ago
  I think what you say about downvotes is true. Eg a comment will be popular one minute, and then suddenly it's not. I also get the issue that my overall karma goes down, while recent comment values stay the same - which could be malicious downvoting of historical comments. So, I think something odd goes on. I comment a lot, generally thoughtful comments, and yet my total karma over the past year is way down. I'm interested to hear what you think it could be. As users we have no visibility of downvotes, who gave them etc. You say bots or people - do you have any reason for thinking this? I'm interested to hear more info, if you have any thoughts.
  - thaumasiotes 3y ago
    > I also get the issue that my overall karma goes down, while recent comment values stay the same - which could be malicious downvoting of historical comments. Historical comments can't be downvoted, or at least the UI doesn't allow it.
    - verisimi 3y ago
      It allows it for 1 month.
      - Thiez 3y ago
        Really? To me the UI only shows the down-arrow for 1 day. If the API allows downvoting for up to 1 month then automated 'revenge' downvote bots should be easy to detect.
        verisimi 3y ago
        Using this site, I created a custom range search. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=custom&page=1&prefix=true&query=JavaScript%20&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=custom&page=1&prefix=true&... For comments less than 1 month, I see the option to upvote, for older comments I don't. How do you think I can detect votes from a 'revenge bot'?
        thaumasiotes 3y ago
        Were you worried about the 'revenge bot' upvoting you, or downvoting you?
        verisimi 3y ago
        I want to know what factors are in play in managing information on this site.
        3y ago