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The article is about service meshes and the tradeoffs amongst them. Going back several years, teams at companies ask about feature X - mtls a big one. The dis

The article is about service meshes and the tradeoffs amongst them. Going back several years, teams at companies ask about feature X - mtls a big one. The discussion goes to - should we use a service mesh, often the answer was no. K8s is a great platform with many options, but many decision makers have little knowledge (or don’t research) the implication of their choices.

mianos 3y ago
It is worse than that. Many decision makers are making their decisions based on advice from people who fired up k8s and all its gadgets for their pet project or google.
gnarbarian 3y ago
this is a personal attack
- jmspring 3y ago
  How so?
  - DonHopkins 3y ago
    I take what he said as admitting that he is one of the "many decision makers [who] have little knowledge (or don’t research) the implication of their choices", and that objective fact stings him personally.
    - gnarbarian 3y ago
      yes it was also a joke
billfor 3y ago
I read the article as being about service meshes now being a cost item whereas they were free or low cost. I’m not sure debating the technical merits speaks to that.
- jmspring 3y ago
  There were technical components mentioned in the article. Yes, cost comparison was the main thrust.
xyst 3y ago
> decision makers have little knowledge (or don’t research) the implication of their choices. I hate how true this statement is within the industry. To many of these C-level executives base decisions off whatever CEO summit they recently attended. “Every app to use microservices!111!” “Hybrid cloud. We are doing it” “Serverless, let’s start using this” “We are fully going to the cloud!11!!” Then when the results come in, the complaints start rolling in: 1) wHy iS aPp SlOwEr (after MSA) 2) gUys, iNfRaStruCtUrE cost is SoArInG (shifting to “cloud”) 3) the ApP is ToO cOmPlEx (after MSA, and “serverless”) Some of these aging dinosaurs need to be put out to pasteur
- neilv 3y ago
  > To many of these C-level executives base decisions off whatever CEO summit they recently attended. [...] Some of these aging dinosaurs need to be put out to pasteur AFAIK, the virus of C-suite IT bad ideas doesn't discriminate on the basis of age.
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mianos 3y ago

It is worse than that. Many decision makers are making their decisions based on advice from people who fired up k8s and all its gadgets for their pet project or google.

gnarbarian 3y ago

this is a personal attack

jmspring 3y ago
How so?
- DonHopkins 3y ago
  I take what he said as admitting that he is one of the "many decision makers [who] have little knowledge (or don’t research) the implication of their choices", and that objective fact stings him personally.
  - gnarbarian 3y ago
    yes it was also a joke

billfor 3y ago

I read the article as being about service meshes now being a cost item whereas they were free or low cost. I’m not sure debating the technical merits speaks to that.

jmspring 3y ago
There were technical components mentioned in the article. Yes, cost comparison was the main thrust.

xyst 3y ago

> decision makers have little knowledge (or don’t research) the implication of their choices. I hate how true this statement is within the industry. To many of these C-level executives base decisions off whatever CEO summit they recently attended. “Every app to use microservices!111!” “Hybrid cloud. We are doing it” “Serverless, let’s start using this” “We are fully going to the cloud!11!!” Then when the results come in, the complaints start rolling in: 1) wHy iS aPp SlOwEr (after MSA) 2) gUys, iNfRaStruCtUrE cost is SoArInG (shifting to “cloud”) 3) the ApP is ToO cOmPlEx (after MSA, and “serverless”) Some of these aging dinosaurs need to be put out to pasteur

neilv 3y ago
> To many of these C-level executives base decisions off whatever CEO summit they recently attended. [...] Some of these aging dinosaurs need to be put out to pasteur AFAIK, the virus of C-suite IT bad ideas doesn't discriminate on the basis of age.

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