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I'm 50/50 on the fence here. I agree with most of your assertions, but I think knowledge of the base level will always be useful. I do quite commonly use gpt4

I'm 50/50 on the fence here. I agree with most of your assertions, but I think knowledge of the base level will always be useful. I do quite commonly use gpt4 to write my boiler plate, my knowledge helps me redirect it when it's going down the wrong path (or flat out hallucinating). Will it get better? Of course! But being able to understand enough to be able to modify it yourself won't disappear. Just become less useful. Apologies if I misunderstood your assertion, it's been a long week.

CamperBob2 3y ago
No, that's basically where I am as well -- GPT4 writes boilerplate and (most importantly) answers questions. It is not competitive with a CS education, nor is it trying to be. But it will eventually replace the people we currently think of as "programmers," which is what the vast majority of CS students end up doing for a living. Unless the IP courts, a nuclear attack, or some neo-Luddite terrorists stop it. :-P GPT4 is certainly error-prone, but rapidly growing less so. Over the past couple of years, it has gone from a rubber-duck debugging partner to a capable (if over-imaginative) junior developer. What I'm starting to see now is that it is moving from "junior developer" to genuine guruhood. Notice how it hallucinates exactly nothing in the session at https://chat.openai.com/share/345d0bca-7fc3-4b91-a1f1-95b1e8e22c01 https://chat.openai.com/share/345d0bca-7fc3-4b91-a1f1-95b1e8... , even when I was being a dumbass and arguing with it. It no longer falls over itself apologizing for its 'error', but stands its ground when it is correct. The GP's comments happened to come at the same time I was engaging GPT4 in that session. I couldn't help but think that this is exactly what it was like to argue with an OG Luddite, or with someone who insisted that horses were never going to give way to automobiles or buses or trains or bikes or anything else.

CamperBob2 3y ago

No, that's basically where I am as well -- GPT4 writes boilerplate and (most importantly) answers questions. It is not competitive with a CS education, nor is it trying to be. But it will eventually replace the people we currently think of as "programmers," which is what the vast majority of CS students end up doing for a living. Unless the IP courts, a nuclear attack, or some neo-Luddite terrorists stop it. :-P GPT4 is certainly error-prone, but rapidly growing less so. Over the past couple of years, it has gone from a rubber-duck debugging partner to a capable (if over-imaginative) junior developer. What I'm starting to see now is that it is moving from "junior developer" to genuine guruhood. Notice how it hallucinates exactly nothing in the session at https://chat.openai.com/share/345d0bca-7fc3-4b91-a1f1-95b1e8e22c01 https://chat.openai.com/share/345d0bca-7fc3-4b91-a1f1-95b1e8... , even when I was being a dumbass and arguing with it. It no longer falls over itself apologizing for its 'error', but stands its ground when it is correct. The GP's comments happened to come at the same time I was engaging GPT4 in that session. I couldn't help but think that this is exactly what it was like to argue with an OG Luddite, or with someone who insisted that horses were never going to give way to automobiles or buses or trains or bikes or anything else.