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It's worth pointing out that old growth timber operations and lumber products ARE actually reproducible forever with intensive management on a small scale. With
by perrygeo 3y ago
It's worth pointing out that old growth timber operations and lumber products ARE actually reproducible forever with intensive management on a small scale. With what some might say is proper respect for the forests. You will get wildlife, and recreation, and cultural values, and food gathering, and hunting, and strategic timber harvest that provide physical/monetary value. You may not get the volume of 2x4s out of Home Depot, but it is is, technically and ecologically, a forever sustainable source of wood. Until the sun stops shining.
- earthwalker99 3y agoso it's possible but not under capitalism
- rayiner 3y agoIt’s not possible under any system where the median American house is over 2,000 square feet. In a system like say colonial India, you can build things out of old growth hard woods (but the majority of the population lives in a hut).
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- DinaCoder99 3y agoHell, why build with wood at all when other materials like bamboo are around? Because nobody is trying to sell you bamboo. Our use of wood has everything to do with market effects run amok.
- VHRanger 3y agoBecause bamboo is really bad at many things we do with wood. Wood is different. Each type of wood has its advantage and disadvantage. A pine tree is more different to a Maple tree than you are to a great white shark in the evolution chart. If bamboo could be easily used to make SPF studs we'd be all over it - it's a $100B industry and bamboo grows extremely easily.
- DinaCoder99 3y ago> Because bamboo is really bad at many things we do with wood. This is simply not true for use as a material for buildings, which is why it's used as a replacement for wood all across east asia.
- southwesterly 3y agoI feel it would be difficult to make guitars with bamboo. Love to see one if they do thought.
- navi0 3y agoThis: https://rizomebamboo.com/ https://rizomebamboo.com/
- SquirrelOnFire 3y agoUp to 1/2 inch thickness... Great. Just need to 4x that to replace 2x4s, the construction material that the entire US home building process is built around. But looks like it's ready to go for some applications (plywood). Hopefully they can get it thicker and replace more dimensional lumber. Or maybe I'm reading their site wrong?
- rayiner 3y agoWhy is something full of glue and binders better than quickly grown softwood?
- DinaCoder99 3y agoWell it doesn't use softwood
- Slava_Propanei 3y ago[dead]
- PeterStuer 3y agoNot in practice. It only takes one economic downturn, or one opportunistic local governement to loosen the reigns, for that forest to be gone in months. This is what has been happening all over Europe over the last decade.
- perrygeo 3y ago> one opportunistic local governement to loosen the reigns Absolutely true, which is why I emphasized "intensive management on a small scale". This is rather unlike current forest governance schemes which are mostly "industrial management on a large scale". Honestly, to do this right, you'd need a huge cultural shift towards living and working in a rural forest, along with direct local control and long-term strategic management. Which describes some forest-dwelling cultures of the past but very few today.
- danlugo92 3y ago> This is what has been happening all over Europe over the last decade. First time I've heard of this, got any source sorry?