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They really should have a breakdown between restaurant and grocery spending. EDIT: They do have it in one of the article links. https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-

They really should have a breakdown between restaurant and grocery spending. EDIT: They do have it in one of the article links. https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ag-and-food-statistics-charting-the-essentials/food-prices-and-spending/?topicId=2b168260-a717-4708-a264-cb354e815c67 https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ag-and-food-statistic... The increase is mostly in food away from home.

jeffbee 3y ago
Like this one? https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/gallery/chart-detail/?chartId=76967 https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/gallery... I don't know why this topic has so much suction on HN. Anything that has a whiff of "shadow stats" inflation trutherism goes right to the top.
- MattGaiser 3y ago
  If regular at-home food actually was starting to eat up a lot more income, that would be an interesting discussion and a significant change for our society (as that has been trending down for a while). So I get why that would be interesting. But the article doesn't differentiate between those, only the linked source.
- soupfordummies 3y ago
  Because those charts don’t line up with the average person’s lived experience. Even well paid tech pros on this forum are noticing it. I cooked some steaks for Valentine’s Day. Cheapest ones I could find were $15/ea. 2 years ago I cooked steaks for Valentines Day and they were like 8 bucks. Maybe overall in aggregate there’s one metric but when you notice a lot of stuff at the grocery store has DOUBLED in price in just a few years, it’s concerning. also that chart stops in 2022 and there is still a noticiable uptick despite the very long scale.
  - jeffbee 3y ago
    The claim that retail steak prices have doubled in 2 years is exactly the kind of inexplicable silliness to which I referred. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000703613#0 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000703613#0
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kdot 3y ago
It's somewhat understandable considering the rising minimum wages for restaurant staff and the additional fees restaurants impose for employee benefits, which have been implemented in several major cities.
soupfordummies 3y ago
Yeah the data and the average persons lived experience seems to vary wildly though. I found a handful of receipts recently from 2020 or so and some of the items are really surprising. A bag of Doritos is 7 bucks now. Nearly doubled. A random grocery stop after work for dinner ingredients like produce, shelf staples etc, yeah that was about 30-40 now I expect to spend 60 or more. Then, like, spray paint for instance is a wild one. It went from about $4 to about $8 now. Worth noting… somehow La Croix hasn’t really gone up at all. Which is great because I drink it like it’s water.

jeffbee 3y ago

Like this one? https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/gallery/chart-detail/?chartId=76967 https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/gallery... I don't know why this topic has so much suction on HN. Anything that has a whiff of "shadow stats" inflation trutherism goes right to the top.

MattGaiser 3y ago
If regular at-home food actually was starting to eat up a lot more income, that would be an interesting discussion and a significant change for our society (as that has been trending down for a while). So I get why that would be interesting. But the article doesn't differentiate between those, only the linked source.
soupfordummies 3y ago
Because those charts don’t line up with the average person’s lived experience. Even well paid tech pros on this forum are noticing it. I cooked some steaks for Valentine’s Day. Cheapest ones I could find were $15/ea. 2 years ago I cooked steaks for Valentines Day and they were like 8 bucks. Maybe overall in aggregate there’s one metric but when you notice a lot of stuff at the grocery store has DOUBLED in price in just a few years, it’s concerning. also that chart stops in 2022 and there is still a noticiable uptick despite the very long scale.
- jeffbee 3y ago
  The claim that retail steak prices have doubled in 2 years is exactly the kind of inexplicable silliness to which I referred. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000703613#0 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000703613#0

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kdot 3y ago

It's somewhat understandable considering the rising minimum wages for restaurant staff and the additional fees restaurants impose for employee benefits, which have been implemented in several major cities.

soupfordummies 3y ago

Yeah the data and the average persons lived experience seems to vary wildly though. I found a handful of receipts recently from 2020 or so and some of the items are really surprising. A bag of Doritos is 7 bucks now. Nearly doubled. A random grocery stop after work for dinner ingredients like produce, shelf staples etc, yeah that was about 30-40 now I expect to spend 60 or more. Then, like, spray paint for instance is a wild one. It went from about $4 to about $8 now. Worth noting… somehow La Croix hasn’t really gone up at all. Which is great because I drink it like it’s water.