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I'd say this is not a cynical view at all, rather a quite realistic one. They only added support for push notifications to iOS in 2023 (7 years after Firefox a

by agust 3y ago

I'd say this is not a cynical view at all, rather a quite realistic one. They only added support for push notifications to iOS in 2023 (7 years after Firefox and 8 years after Chrome on Android), right after the UK regulator started its investigation in mobile ecosystems.

mdhb 3y ago
Yeah I’m not sure how that seemed to get lost in some of the revisionist history in the comments here but it at a minimum sure was a hell of a coincidence that they managed to not make any meaningful investments in supporting the web as a viable app platform right up until the moment that regulators started looking into it.
- albert180 3y ago
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- jajko 3y ago
  This is an important server, not some small anonymous fringe forum. The idea that various political games are not played and manipulated also here is dangerously naive. Could be just die hard fans or current employees/investors, but... I've seen and read enough to know how these games are played by all relevant players. Again, this is too important and trivial to infiltrate place to ignore by many many players. Sure mods can remove outright lies but the key is in subtle ways crowds can be manipulated via ie direct attack on negative emotions, or mildly revisioning history one step at a time.
  - agust 3y ago
    Given the number of comments trying to find the craziest justifications for a giant corporation just attempting to break a law, silently kill thousands of apps used by millions of users, destroy businesses and kill the only open and free app distribution platform competing with their closed and taxed one, there is indeed very little doubt that a lot of people here have a vested interest in Apple. Of course, Apple $1B legal department thought they had to kill web apps to conform with the DMA whose purpose is to open iOS to competition. Sure ;)
  - sumeno 3y ago
    > This is an important server It's really not. Self important maybe
egberts1 3y ago
Nowadays, using push notification, users can be exposed from behind VPN. Perhaps this is why Apple dragged their feet.
- deleted 3y ago
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- agust 3y ago
  Lol, good one. And they just forgot to remove them for native apps, right?

by agust 3y ago

mdhb 3y ago

Yeah I’m not sure how that seemed to get lost in some of the revisionist history in the comments here but it at a minimum sure was a hell of a coincidence that they managed to not make any meaningful investments in supporting the web as a viable app platform right up until the moment that regulators started looking into it.

albert180 3y ago
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jajko 3y ago
This is an important server, not some small anonymous fringe forum. The idea that various political games are not played and manipulated also here is dangerously naive. Could be just die hard fans or current employees/investors, but... I've seen and read enough to know how these games are played by all relevant players. Again, this is too important and trivial to infiltrate place to ignore by many many players. Sure mods can remove outright lies but the key is in subtle ways crowds can be manipulated via ie direct attack on negative emotions, or mildly revisioning history one step at a time.
- agust 3y ago
  Given the number of comments trying to find the craziest justifications for a giant corporation just attempting to break a law, silently kill thousands of apps used by millions of users, destroy businesses and kill the only open and free app distribution platform competing with their closed and taxed one, there is indeed very little doubt that a lot of people here have a vested interest in Apple. Of course, Apple $1B legal department thought they had to kill web apps to conform with the DMA whose purpose is to open iOS to competition. Sure ;)
- sumeno 3y ago
  > This is an important server It's really not. Self important maybe

egberts1 3y ago

Nowadays, using push notification, users can be exposed from behind VPN. Perhaps this is why Apple dragged their feet.

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agust 3y ago
Lol, good one. And they just forgot to remove them for native apps, right?