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Your loyalty to your employees should include respect for contracts and the law. This man satisfied the conditions for payment of the bonus before he left the c

by nknight 14y ago

Your loyalty to your employees should include respect for contracts and the law. This man satisfied the conditions for payment of the bonus before he left the company, he is entitled to the money. That you would not give it to him makes you little better than a thief. Fortunately, we all now know that OpenDNS and anything else David Ulevitch is involved with in the future is a company to avoid.

adgar 14y ago
> Fortunately, we all now know that OpenDNS and anything else David Ulevitch is involved with in the future is a company to avoid. It seems that's true only if you value treating people with respect when you aren't legally obligated to.
- davidu 14y ago
  Again, a wild and broad conclusion based on my perspective that perks for employees are valid for actual employees, and not former employees. The company should have paid it out when he earned it. The employee should have requested it before quitting. Neither event happened. It doesn't matter if the employee quit two days ago, two weeks ago or two decades ago. He's not an employee now and should just move on with his life.
  - creamyhorror 14y ago
    "Too bad you forgot sucks for you" is not what the law says, nor is it the ethical thing to do, IMO.
    - adgar 14y ago
      > "Too bad you forgot sucks for you" is not what the law says, nor is it the ethical thing to do, IMO. That's not what's going on. It's "Too bad we forgot and you forgot to remind us sucks for you."
davidu 14y ago
Do you always come to these conclusions so quickly? I'm sharing my opinion, based on my experiences. I also explained that at my company perks are for employees, a status that the OP no longer maintains at Miso. Neither of us know the specifics of their deal. I think you've jumped a few steps ahead of where you ought to be at this juncture. Perhaps you simply disagree with my point of view. I think HN is often one-sided, so I sometimes delude myself into thinking I should contribute. But now you have resorted to calling me a thief and encouraging others (along with Google indexes) to never do business with me. I think you've stepped a bit over the line.
- nknight 14y ago
  You have announced to the world, entirely of your own accord, that you will flout the law and steal money from your employees. This is your doing, not mine. Is it also your habit to blame others for your own shortcomings?
  - pbiggar 14y ago
    I agree with davidu that you crossed the line. I certainly had a bad opinion about davidu and his company before your comment, but I didn't know who davidu was, or what his company was. So now I have a bad opinion about real life stuff, based off one comment with little context (perhaps it was hastily written, etc). Taking one comment and trying to tie it to google juice about real life is a dickish move, IMO.

by nknight 14y ago

adgar 14y ago

> Fortunately, we all now know that OpenDNS and anything else David Ulevitch is involved with in the future is a company to avoid. It seems that's true only if you value treating people with respect when you aren't legally obligated to.

davidu 14y ago
Again, a wild and broad conclusion based on my perspective that perks for employees are valid for actual employees, and not former employees. The company should have paid it out when he earned it. The employee should have requested it before quitting. Neither event happened. It doesn't matter if the employee quit two days ago, two weeks ago or two decades ago. He's not an employee now and should just move on with his life.
- creamyhorror 14y ago
  "Too bad you forgot sucks for you" is not what the law says, nor is it the ethical thing to do, IMO.
  - adgar 14y ago
    > "Too bad you forgot sucks for you" is not what the law says, nor is it the ethical thing to do, IMO. That's not what's going on. It's "Too bad we forgot and you forgot to remind us sucks for you."

davidu 14y ago

Do you always come to these conclusions so quickly? I'm sharing my opinion, based on my experiences. I also explained that at my company perks are for employees, a status that the OP no longer maintains at Miso. Neither of us know the specifics of their deal. I think you've jumped a few steps ahead of where you ought to be at this juncture. Perhaps you simply disagree with my point of view. I think HN is often one-sided, so I sometimes delude myself into thinking I should contribute. But now you have resorted to calling me a thief and encouraging others (along with Google indexes) to never do business with me. I think you've stepped a bit over the line.

nknight 14y ago
You have announced to the world, entirely of your own accord, that you will flout the law and steal money from your employees. This is your doing, not mine. Is it also your habit to blame others for your own shortcomings?
- pbiggar 14y ago
  I agree with davidu that you crossed the line. I certainly had a bad opinion about davidu and his company before your comment, but I didn't know who davidu was, or what his company was. So now I have a bad opinion about real life stuff, based off one comment with little context (perhaps it was hastily written, etc). Taking one comment and trying to tie it to google juice about real life is a dickish move, IMO.