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Microsoft first invested in OpenAI in 2019, which is when they changed their corporate structure. It's now 2024. If Musk had some ideological issue with OpenAI

Microsoft first invested in OpenAI in 2019, which is when they changed their corporate structure. It's now 2024. If Musk had some ideological issue with OpenAI's new corporate structure then why didn't he sue right away?

ergocoder 3y ago
"Not suing right away" isn't a good argument in many cases. There are myriad of reasons why people don't sue immediately. I don't think the question is worth asking.
- HarHarVeryFunny 3y ago
  I'm not saying it has any legal implications to have waited so long (maybe it does - I've no idea), but if this is really about ideology then the timing seems very weird.
beAbU 3y ago
He was busy destryoing twitter?
codexb 3y ago
Microsoft contributes to the python foundation, Linux, and lots of other non-profits with valuable IP. I’m sure if any of those nonprofits stopped releasing source code and began giving it only to Microsoft, there would be a lawsuit as well. OpenAI was still effectively sharing their research until last year.
- HarHarVeryFunny 3y ago
  As I recall OpenAI started becoming more closed at least around the time of GPT-3 (2020). Remember them initially saying the large model was too dangerous to release?
chucke1992 3y ago
Musk is just salty that he could not get OpenAI stocks and his Grok is going nowhere. After all he was trying to restrict OpenAI development for 6 months or something (to try to give some time to Grok).
woopsn 3y ago
Mr. Altman was fired for cause last year. He then demonstrated very thoroughly and publicly that OpenAI is controlled by Microsoft, and only nominally had its own board and charter. See general allegation "C. The 2023 Breach Of The Founding Agreement".
Andrex 3y ago
Taking Musk's lawsuit on its face: Microsoft's investment is not the issue. The corporate change is not the issue. They were the first steps needed to create the issue Musk is targeting. Before the Altman drama, Musk probably wasn't paying attention much. Hell, most of HN didn't care either, and we live this shit every day.
paulddraper 3y ago
Maybe he was busy

ergocoder 3y ago

"Not suing right away" isn't a good argument in many cases. There are myriad of reasons why people don't sue immediately. I don't think the question is worth asking.

HarHarVeryFunny 3y ago
I'm not saying it has any legal implications to have waited so long (maybe it does - I've no idea), but if this is really about ideology then the timing seems very weird.

beAbU 3y ago

He was busy destryoing twitter?

codexb 3y ago

Microsoft contributes to the python foundation, Linux, and lots of other non-profits with valuable IP. I’m sure if any of those nonprofits stopped releasing source code and began giving it only to Microsoft, there would be a lawsuit as well. OpenAI was still effectively sharing their research until last year.

HarHarVeryFunny 3y ago
As I recall OpenAI started becoming more closed at least around the time of GPT-3 (2020). Remember them initially saying the large model was too dangerous to release?

chucke1992 3y ago

Musk is just salty that he could not get OpenAI stocks and his Grok is going nowhere. After all he was trying to restrict OpenAI development for 6 months or something (to try to give some time to Grok).

woopsn 3y ago

Mr. Altman was fired for cause last year. He then demonstrated very thoroughly and publicly that OpenAI is controlled by Microsoft, and only nominally had its own board and charter. See general allegation "C. The 2023 Breach Of The Founding Agreement".

Andrex 3y ago

Taking Musk's lawsuit on its face: Microsoft's investment is not the issue. The corporate change is not the issue. They were the first steps needed to create the issue Musk is targeting. Before the Altman drama, Musk probably wasn't paying attention much. Hell, most of HN didn't care either, and we live this shit every day.

paulddraper 3y ago

Maybe he was busy