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I don't miss it, DisplayPort is a really good replacement.

by zekica 3y ago

Antip0dean 3y ago
It is. And this is the likely to be the solution to this issue. DP is a VESA standard, and its Dual Mode feature supports passive adaptors for, among other things, HDMI displays. I use one on my 20-series RTX card. A cheap DP-HDMI dongle makes all this go away. As long as VESA doesn't behave the same way, anyway.
- dtx1 3y ago
  > A cheap DP-HDMI dongle makes all this go away. As long as VESA doesn't behave the same way, anyway. You can even get cables that are DP on the input and HDMI on the output with minimal bulk.
  - oskarw85 3y ago
    But this feature works by transmitting HDMI signals so you still need to implement the software part in question.
    - paulmd 3y ago
      No, it doesn’t. Hdmi alt mode doesn’t exist in the real world.
- prmoustache 3y ago
  That works somewhat well for 1080p but all adapters I have seen max out at 30fps for 4K video. Might be ok for movies but gamers might not like it. 55" monitors with DisplayPort do exist but they are only a selected few and seem to cost 4 times the price of a 4K TV. So 4K is still pretty much a luxury that I will just ignore for now.
dtx1 3y ago
I think the connector good be better in terms of reversibility and none of that weird locking it has but it's an incredible technical achievement. And it seems perpetually ahead of HDMI in terms of features and Bandwidth.
- Gare 3y ago
  Locking is a feature, not a bug
  - dtx1 3y ago
    Locking in general yes, the specific implementation of locks on the DP Plug are annoying.
  - oskarw85 3y ago
    Especially when your monitor falls down from your desk instead of simply disconnecting at the plug.
    - Gare 3y ago
      Easily solved by proper cable management.
- microtonal 3y ago
  And there is DP-Alt for USB Type-C, which makes it much nicer than a regular DP connector.
- delta_p_delta_x 3y ago
  > And it seems perpetually ahead of HDMI in terms of features and Bandwidth. Not for the past few years. Although DP 2.0 has been 'released', there are no products actually shipping with it, and in practice DP 1.4 is the latest standard. DP 1.4 can't transmit 3840×2160 at 4:4:4 144 Hz without Display Stream Compression (DSC). HDMI 2.0 can.
  - dtx1 3y ago

I don't miss it, DisplayPort is a really good replacement.

by zekica 3y ago

I don't miss it, DisplayPort is a really good replacement.

It is. And this is the likely to be the solution to this issue. DP is a VESA standard, and its Dual Mode feature supports passive adaptors for, among other things, HDMI displays. I use one on my 20-series RTX card. A cheap DP-HDMI dongle makes all this go away. As long as VESA doesn't behave the same way, anyway.

dtx1 3y ago
> A cheap DP-HDMI dongle makes all this go away. As long as VESA doesn't behave the same way, anyway. You can even get cables that are DP on the input and HDMI on the output with minimal bulk.
- oskarw85 3y ago
  But this feature works by transmitting HDMI signals so you still need to implement the software part in question.
  - paulmd 3y ago
    No, it doesn’t. Hdmi alt mode doesn’t exist in the real world.
prmoustache 3y ago
That works somewhat well for 1080p but all adapters I have seen max out at 30fps for 4K video. Might be ok for movies but gamers might not like it. 55" monitors with DisplayPort do exist but they are only a selected few and seem to cost 4 times the price of a 4K TV. So 4K is still pretty much a luxury that I will just ignore for now.

dtx1 3y ago

I think the connector good be better in terms of reversibility and none of that weird locking it has but it's an incredible technical achievement. And it seems perpetually ahead of HDMI in terms of features and Bandwidth.

Gare 3y ago
Locking is a feature, not a bug
- dtx1 3y ago
  Locking in general yes, the specific implementation of locks on the DP Plug are annoying.
- oskarw85 3y ago
  Especially when your monitor falls down from your desk instead of simply disconnecting at the plug.
  - Gare 3y ago
    Easily solved by proper cable management.
microtonal 3y ago
And there is DP-Alt for USB Type-C, which makes it much nicer than a regular DP connector.
delta_p_delta_x 3y ago
> And it seems perpetually ahead of HDMI in terms of features and Bandwidth. Not for the past few years. Although DP 2.0 has been 'released', there are no products actually shipping with it, and in practice DP 1.4 is the latest standard. DP 1.4 can't transmit 3840×2160 at 4:4:4 144 Hz without Display Stream Compression (DSC). HDMI 2.0 can.
- dtx1 3y ago