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Alcohol-Related Deaths Surge to Nearly 500 a Day, CDC Says
- s9df898r32h 3y ago[flagged]
- sdwr 3y agoProbably never, the point is that they aren't getting around paywalls, it's users that they aren't necessarily aware of or responsible for. Plausible deniability goes a long way.
- s9df898r32h 3y agoin other words, "no cojones"
- joeybiden 3y ago[flagged]
- neilv 3y agoMaybe because a tech industry forum routinely circumventing copyright protection paywalls in a "grassroots" way is in questionable taste, and making it official would arguably be worse? (Incidentally, someday a piracy site like that could serve up a browser zero-day, and pwn a large percentage of US tech companies. Without ever having needed to go to the trouble to develop their own content that would attract such a large audience of tech workers on work machines.)
- s9df898r32h 3y agoAre you saying that web archive services are breaking copyright law? I would say it's fair use seeing how ephemeral the content is. It's a myth that Internet content last forever.
- neilv 3y agoAFAIK, archive.org is mainly used as a legitimate archive service. These other archive.* services seem to be used mainly for piracy. I don't know whether that's the intent, but that's the only use of them I recall seeing. I think conflating the two categories of services might put archive.org at risk.
- datadrivenangel 3y ago"About 178,000 people died in 2021 from excessive drinking, compared with 138,000 in 2016. During that period, the deaths rose by 27 percent among men and 35 percent among women." Cheers to pandemic hobbies?
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- denimnerd42 3y agothis is quite an anti-drug article. Raise prices? Limit access? Research shows that even a little bit can mutate DNA..? Drinking 100 years ago was way worse and that's how we got prohibition. Hope we don't go back in that direction.
- EForEndeavour 3y agoCould you share any evidence-based arguments against the evidence-based statements and recommendations summarized in the article? What fatal flaws undermine the research in the linked CDC page[1] establishing a causal link between alcohol consumption and DNA damage and increased risk of cancers of the mouth and throat, larynx, esophagus, liver, colon and rectum, and breast in women? [1] https://blogs.cdc.gov/cancer/2018/04/02/3-weird-things-about-acetaldehyde/ https://blogs.cdc.gov/cancer/2018/04/02/3-weird-things-about...
- tptacek 3y agoAll sorts of things elevate all kind of risks of cancer, but this is one of the few we moralize this way.
- daseiner1 3y agobecause those other things, on the whole, do not destroy people and their families in as acute a manner as alcohol and alcoholism do.
- ta2234234242 3y agoOn the other hand, what exactly is freedom?
- galaxyLogic 3y agoFreedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.
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- pfannkuchen 3y agoDied of alcohol or with alcohol?
- spiderice 3y agoI’m also wondering what is considered “dying of alcohol”. Is it only when you drink so much that you die directly from the drinking? Or is it including drunk driving and the like?
- SOLAR_FIELDS 3y agoSibling comment provided a pretty good breakdown of the numbers and split
- almost_usual 3y agoWell you can also die from withdrawals when your BAC is zero.
- CydeWeys 3y agoWhich is why hospitals are stocked with "medical vodka" (actually just regular vodka) to administer to patients suffering from severe withdrawals. It can take a few days to get down to surviving on 0 BAC, though of course unpleasant (but not fatal) withdrawal symptoms will persist for awhile longer.
- cypherpunks01 3y ago- Two thirds of the deaths (about 117,000 deaths) are due to chronic conditions that develop from long-term alcohol use, including various types of cancer, heart disease, liver disease, and alcohol use disorder. - One third of these deaths (about 61,000 deaths) happen from drinking too much on one occasion, such as from motor vehicle crashes, poisonings involving substances in addition to alcohol, and suicides.
- readthenotes1 3y agoI think people are missing your reference to the cases of people who had covid as the cause of death on their birth certificate and things like "headshot wound " as a contributing factor...
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- cypherpunks01 3y agoOriginal source: Deaths from Excessive Alcohol Use — United States, 2016–2021 from CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, Vol. 73, No. 8, Feb 29, 2024 https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/pdfs/mm7308a1-H.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/pdfs/mm7308a1-H.pdf
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- freitzkriesler2 3y agoAnyone else give up drinking? I only do it for work events to fit in with the bosses but that's about it. Might have a glass of really good red wine once or twice a year. Ages the hell out of you.
- wredue 3y agoYes. Was never a heavy drinker, but now that I track calories, there’s rarely room left for many alcoholic beverages
- User23 3y agoI also just sort of stopped drinking. I don't consider myself a non-drinker, it's just, well, whenever the opportunity arises I consider it and decide I prefer not to mess up my sleep and feel lousy the next day for an experience that, frankly, is less enjoyable than reading a book or playing a game or something else that I enjoy. As for the dietary calories, well, you can hack that one. I don't recommend it for obvious reasons, but a diet of nothing but extremely lean protein, fiber (not strictly necessary, but it's nice to have some flavors other than meat, fish, or egg white), and ethanol (with virtually no dietary fat or carbohydrates) cannot, and I mean it is a proven metabolic impossibility, cause the gain of bodyfat. There is no storage form of ethanol, and the storage form of protein is various lean tissues. Now you might ask, but what about glycogenesis? Won't the body metabolize that protein into glucose and then store that glucose as body fat? That's a perfectly reasonable thing to suppose, but it's proven, in strictly controlled metabolic ward studies, that it does not happen. Instead the kidneys just eliminate the excess protein. Glycogenesis is only used for immediate energy needs, and of course the body will preferentially use ethanol for immediate energy before protein.
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- invalidator 3y agoYep! About 15 years ago I decided I didn't like what alcohol did to people around me and I haven't had a drink since.
- xnx 3y agoSimilar to vaping, is there a safer way to consume alcohol or get drunk in a similar way?
- smolder 3y agoNo. Alcohol can't work independently of its downsides. The next-best but also-bad thing is probably GHB or ketamine or something like that. Basically any CNS depressant is going to have some significant dangers, short or long term.
- newman8r 3y agoYou can actually make ethanol into a vapor you can inhale, but unfortunately I assume that only makes it even more dangerous.
- thsksbd 3y agoPerfectly safe. Just make sure there's no ignition source
- newman8r 3y agoI'm only speculating, but I assume it's a lot easier to consume in excess with this method before you'd feel sick. I feel nausea if I drink too much too quickly, not sure if I'd get that with inhaling it. I do want to give it a try some time though.
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- postalrat 3y agoToo many people working... I mean drinking from home.
- awskinda 3y agoProbably some mental health damage from Covid lockdowns as well. To the downvotes - I’m not saying lockdowns were a bad thing, but they did take a toll on many mentally. I’m personally still struggling to recover to my pre-Covid levels of mental health. It was very tough personally on me, and I took the lockdowns very seriously.
- rpmisms 3y agoLockdown was the first time I'd ever drunk heavily in my life. Still have some weird hangups from being treated like a criminal for wanting to do normal human things.
- DANmode 3y agoThey're not weird. More unusual all the time, though.
- rpmisms 3y agoI moved to a state where lockdown never happened, and people here just don't understand how bad it actually was. What am I gonna do, talk to a therapist?
- DANmode 3y agoI saw "weird" and just wanted to double-down on your idea that you're just a normal human =]
- rpmisms 3y agoI am not a normal human. I have a disturbing combination of high aggression, low empathy, high intelligence, and high agreeableness. I don't make sense to me. I'm not talking about social anxiety hangups, either. I'm talking about hyper-specific weird interactions that I just can't do now.
- Euphorbium 3y agoKeep on cracking hard on other drugs and promoting this one.
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- uslic001 3y agoI stopped all alcohol intake 86 days ago for several reasons including several friends from college dying from cirrhosis complications. Covid/lockdowns definitely accelerated the alcohol related deaths that I have seen in my job as a gastroenterologist.