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Well then I guess they'll have to go to the office while they look for a new employer, the horror. But yeah I suppose some could group together to force the po

Well then I guess they'll have to go to the office while they look for a new employer, the horror. But yeah I suppose some could group together to force the policy decisions of where everyone works... Those damn employers supporting people's families.

text0404 3y ago
those poor employers just trying to support everyone's families and those ungrateful developers working 7 days a week taking advantage of them, "building" the "products" that make the company "profitable" :( and now these maladjusted workers are thinking of organizing together??? for better working conditions??????? ridiculous. just go work at mcdonalds or something amirite
- theultdev 3y ago
  Uhm where did you see they were making them work 7 days a week? This article is about them complaining about having to go into the office for 5 days. Working remotely is not a right. You have many people here who advocated against it vehemently for years. I prefer remote work and I'd only work for a full remote company, but in no way do I feel like it's my right to force a company to allow me be remote.
  - text0404 3y ago
    the article is about the game industry. it's kind of well known for its toxicity and poor working conditions. - https://uniglobalunion.org/news/video-game-workers-crushed/ https://uniglobalunion.org/news/video-game-workers-crushed/ - https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/588cai/why_do_we_accept_such_crappy_working_conditions/ https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/588cai/why_do_we_a... - https://www.ns-businesshub.com/business/working-conditions-in-the-video-game-industry/ https://www.ns-businesshub.com/business/working-conditions-i... - https://slate.com/technology/2023/07/video-game-industry-labor-cooperatives.html https://slate.com/technology/2023/07/video-game-industry-lab... > Working remotely is not a right. it is if your work drives the company's profits and you can organize with your fellow workers and demand it! > I prefer remote work and I'd only work for a full remote company, but in no way do I feel like it's my right to force a company to allow me be remote. good for you, some of us see the employer beholden to the people who actually drive the company. try not to police your fellow workers while we advocate for better lives.
    - theultdev 3y ago
      > the article is about the game industry. it's kind of well known for its toxicity and poor working conditions. Ah yes it's about the gaming industry, not a specific topic like company shifting to office work during the last period of development and workers not wanting to go in to the office. Makes it easy to shift that goal post when it's just about the industry, but you're also arguing that remote work is a right, so I'm not sure you even fell for that. Is Rockstar demanding 7 days? No. What you said is false and irrelevant. Don't try to conflate things that are irrelevant to this particular discussion. Either you view remote work as a right or not. I don't.
      - text0404 3y ago
        the article is about employees angry that they're being forced back into the office when they already deal with poor working conditions. rockstar doesn't demand it, it's already a part of the culture of the industry. hence, why they're so upset. the first pull quote is literally "After so many broken promises we now fear management may even be paving the way for a return to toxic ‘crunch’ practices." please read the article before shitting all over people who are trying to better their working conditions. > Don't try to conflate things that are irrelevant to this particular discussion. it's not my fault you have poor reading comprehension and disdain for your fellow workers.
        theultdev 3y ago
        Okay I'll bite, highlight the existing "poor working conditions" please. The author did write they fear and are worried about "heightened risk of overwork (crunch)" but that doesn't mean it will happen. Being worried about something happening and something happening are two different things in case I need to point that out. It seems you're the one that needs to beef up your reading comprehension. Hint: keywords are "risk", "worried", "fear".
        text0404 3y ago
        > And I'm not upset sooo you must suck at mind reading or can't realize you're projecting I guess. i didn't say you were upset. i said _they_ were upset. there's that poor reading comprehension again. edit: oh, you deleted that line? is it because you just post without reading anything, like the article? quoted: > For years, Rockstar had a notorious reputation within the video game industry for brutal crunch in the making of Grand Theft Auto and Red Dead games. However, following the release of Red Dead Redemption 2 in 2018 and the shocking stories about the human cost of its development, media reports suggested changes were made to the company’s culture to avoid the same thing happening during the development of GTA 6. > Austin Kelmore, IWGB Game Workers Chair also hit out at Rockstar: “The workers in the IWGB Game Workers Union at Rockstar are pushing for transparency over pay and promotions, a healthy and inclusive workplace culture, and work life balance centred around what each worker needs. It is unacceptable that Rockstar leadership have gone back on their word time and time again and have ignored the workers' requests for basic working conditions. read the article, dude. rockstar (ESPECIALLY rockstar) has a history of this behavior. we call that "evidence," so when people have "fear" it's because it's well-founded based on historical fact.

text0404 3y ago

those poor employers just trying to support everyone's families and those ungrateful developers working 7 days a week taking advantage of them, "building" the "products" that make the company "profitable" :( and now these maladjusted workers are thinking of organizing together??? for better working conditions??????? ridiculous. just go work at mcdonalds or something amirite

theultdev 3y ago
Uhm where did you see they were making them work 7 days a week? This article is about them complaining about having to go into the office for 5 days. Working remotely is not a right. You have many people here who advocated against it vehemently for years. I prefer remote work and I'd only work for a full remote company, but in no way do I feel like it's my right to force a company to allow me be remote.
- text0404 3y ago
  the article is about the game industry. it's kind of well known for its toxicity and poor working conditions. - https://uniglobalunion.org/news/video-game-workers-crushed/ https://uniglobalunion.org/news/video-game-workers-crushed/ - https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/588cai/why_do_we_accept_such_crappy_working_conditions/ https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/588cai/why_do_we_a... - https://www.ns-businesshub.com/business/working-conditions-in-the-video-game-industry/ https://www.ns-businesshub.com/business/working-conditions-i... - https://slate.com/technology/2023/07/video-game-industry-labor-cooperatives.html https://slate.com/technology/2023/07/video-game-industry-lab... > Working remotely is not a right. it is if your work drives the company's profits and you can organize with your fellow workers and demand it! > I prefer remote work and I'd only work for a full remote company, but in no way do I feel like it's my right to force a company to allow me be remote. good for you, some of us see the employer beholden to the people who actually drive the company. try not to police your fellow workers while we advocate for better lives.
  - theultdev 3y ago
    > the article is about the game industry. it's kind of well known for its toxicity and poor working conditions. Ah yes it's about the gaming industry, not a specific topic like company shifting to office work during the last period of development and workers not wanting to go in to the office. Makes it easy to shift that goal post when it's just about the industry, but you're also arguing that remote work is a right, so I'm not sure you even fell for that. Is Rockstar demanding 7 days? No. What you said is false and irrelevant. Don't try to conflate things that are irrelevant to this particular discussion. Either you view remote work as a right or not. I don't.
    - text0404 3y ago
      the article is about employees angry that they're being forced back into the office when they already deal with poor working conditions. rockstar doesn't demand it, it's already a part of the culture of the industry. hence, why they're so upset. the first pull quote is literally "After so many broken promises we now fear management may even be paving the way for a return to toxic ‘crunch’ practices." please read the article before shitting all over people who are trying to better their working conditions. > Don't try to conflate things that are irrelevant to this particular discussion. it's not my fault you have poor reading comprehension and disdain for your fellow workers.
      - theultdev 3y ago
        Okay I'll bite, highlight the existing "poor working conditions" please. The author did write they fear and are worried about "heightened risk of overwork (crunch)" but that doesn't mean it will happen. Being worried about something happening and something happening are two different things in case I need to point that out. It seems you're the one that needs to beef up your reading comprehension. Hint: keywords are "risk", "worried", "fear".
        text0404 3y ago
        > And I'm not upset sooo you must suck at mind reading or can't realize you're projecting I guess. i didn't say you were upset. i said _they_ were upset. there's that poor reading comprehension again. edit: oh, you deleted that line? is it because you just post without reading anything, like the article? quoted: > For years, Rockstar had a notorious reputation within the video game industry for brutal crunch in the making of Grand Theft Auto and Red Dead games. However, following the release of Red Dead Redemption 2 in 2018 and the shocking stories about the human cost of its development, media reports suggested changes were made to the company’s culture to avoid the same thing happening during the development of GTA 6. > Austin Kelmore, IWGB Game Workers Chair also hit out at Rockstar: “The workers in the IWGB Game Workers Union at Rockstar are pushing for transparency over pay and promotions, a healthy and inclusive workplace culture, and work life balance centred around what each worker needs. It is unacceptable that Rockstar leadership have gone back on their word time and time again and have ignored the workers' requests for basic working conditions. read the article, dude. rockstar (ESPECIALLY rockstar) has a history of this behavior. we call that "evidence," so when people have "fear" it's because it's well-founded based on historical fact.