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> I think that would require AI development to approximately halt at close to the current level for over a lifetime. What I'm getting at isn't AI development h

> I think that would require AI development to approximately halt at close to the current level for over a lifetime. What I'm getting at isn't AI development halting, but human knowledge/creativity halting [1]. Because the AI is and can only be trained on human knowledge, it's knowledge of reality has an upper bound (whereas, theoretically, humans can know anything or make new discoveries that don't exist in our current knowledge set). If you don't tell the AI that strawberries are a thing/reality, it will never conceive of a strawberry on its own. And arguably, it's not fair to call these things "AI" until they can do so. [1] Charlie Munger said "show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcome." Well, in this case, the incentives to use AI > spending the time to learn and develop skills. The outcome here is clear: humans will stop producing new knowledge and by extension, the AI will stop receiving new knowledge to learn.

ben_w 3y ago
> Because the AI is and can only be trained on human knowledge, it's knowledge of reality has an upper bound (whereas, theoretically, humans can know anything or make new discoveries that don't exist in our current knowledge set). AI do not have such a limitation; they can be trained on anything, including to design and then perform their own experiments in laboratories, e.g. this one: https://engineering.cmu.edu/news-events/news/2023/12/20-ai-coscientist.html https://engineering.cmu.edu/news-events/news/2023/12/20-ai-c... > If you don't tell the AI that strawberries are a thing/reality, it will never conceive of a strawberry on its own. And arguably, it's not fair to call these things "AI" until they can do so. I have far too many projects on my plate right now, but that is kinda one of them, has been since… wow, only December, these last few months have felt like years: https://benwheatley.github.io/blog/2023/12/12.html https://benwheatley.github.io/blog/2023/12/12.html

ben_w 3y ago

> Because the AI is and can only be trained on human knowledge, it's knowledge of reality has an upper bound (whereas, theoretically, humans can know anything or make new discoveries that don't exist in our current knowledge set). AI do not have such a limitation; they can be trained on anything, including to design and then perform their own experiments in laboratories, e.g. this one: https://engineering.cmu.edu/news-events/news/2023/12/20-ai-coscientist.html https://engineering.cmu.edu/news-events/news/2023/12/20-ai-c... > If you don't tell the AI that strawberries are a thing/reality, it will never conceive of a strawberry on its own. And arguably, it's not fair to call these things "AI" until they can do so. I have far too many projects on my plate right now, but that is kinda one of them, has been since… wow, only December, these last few months have felt like years: https://benwheatley.github.io/blog/2023/12/12.html https://benwheatley.github.io/blog/2023/12/12.html