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What do you mean there's no evidence? Consider e.g. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pr0.1995.76.1.43 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/p

by strken 3y ago

What do you mean there's no evidence? Consider e.g. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pr0.1995.76.1.43 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pr0.1995.76.1.4...: > children's birth order and family size are consistently related to styles of parenting (i.e., levels of control and levels of warmth) which are known to influence achievement directly (Baumrind, 1767, 1971; Dornbusch, et al., 1987; Paulson, 1994; Steinberg, et al., 1789). For example, firstborn children have rated parents higher on behaviors such as parental control (Schaller, 1978) and parental strictness (Rule, 1991) than later-born children The pop-science explanation may or may not be true, but the underlying fact that later children get a different parenting style has supporting evidence.

lapcat 3y ago
The full article is behind a paywall, but the abstract doesn't seem to say what you're saying. It does say: 1) Kids and parents have differing perceptions of the parenting style: "Birth-order and family-size differences were found in adolescents' achievement and perceptions of parenting style and parental involvement but not in parents' perceptions of parenting." Thus, your statement "the underlying fact that later children get a different parenting style" doesn't actually seem to be a fact. 2) Parenting style, whether it actually differed or not among children, didn't seem to explain the differences in archievement: "these parenting characteristics did not mediate the differences seen in achievement by birth order and family size."
geraldhh 3y ago
as @lapcat noted, there is a paywal preventing access to the information you refer to. this is somewhat subpar, pls link open information, quote or idk something https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.2466/pr0.1995.76.1.43 https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.2466/pr0.1995.76.1.43
- strken 3y ago
  I wasn't going to link directly to a pirate site, even if it's convenient and even though journals are parasites.

by strken 3y ago

lapcat 3y ago

The full article is behind a paywall, but the abstract doesn't seem to say what you're saying. It does say: 1) Kids and parents have differing perceptions of the parenting style: "Birth-order and family-size differences were found in adolescents' achievement and perceptions of parenting style and parental involvement but not in parents' perceptions of parenting." Thus, your statement "the underlying fact that later children get a different parenting style" doesn't actually seem to be a fact. 2) Parenting style, whether it actually differed or not among children, didn't seem to explain the differences in archievement: "these parenting characteristics did not mediate the differences seen in achievement by birth order and family size."

geraldhh 3y ago

as @lapcat noted, there is a paywal preventing access to the information you refer to. this is somewhat subpar, pls link open information, quote or idk something https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.2466/pr0.1995.76.1.43 https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.2466/pr0.1995.76.1.43

strken 3y ago
I wasn't going to link directly to a pirate site, even if it's convenient and even though journals are parasites.