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I think a more fair interpretation is the managers don't fully realize just how busy you are and are following the path of least resistance. When you're more c

I think a more fair interpretation is the managers don't fully realize just how busy you are and are following the path of least resistance. When you're more clear in your communication, it helps them understand. I'm not saying there aren't assholes out there, but I would chalk your experience up to mostly misunderstandings rather than malice.

gwervc 3y ago
I don't think so. At least at the organizational level, I noticed that most companies try to screw workers, despite being in a country with one of the most protective labor laws. My former company did me dirty (I stayed only the trial period), my current company is fine but still not applying some of the laws. When speaking of that with people the very large portion of them (like 90%) were like "keep it low", "that's how jobs are", etc. My own father mocked me when I spoke about fighting for my rights in my current company. One people encouraged me but added that they wouldn't have the courage to do it in my situation. It's astonishing how most people are carpets, ready to by walked on. Slaves who don't even entertain the thought of rising their voices. Which brings me to the middle managers and why I think GP is right: most people just bend their head and accept to do whatever is thrown at them, of course surprised pikachu face happens when someone they no. Since managers manage slaves and slaves can't say no, mechanically it raises the question of the status of someone who is confident enough to stand for himself.
- PeterisP 3y ago
  A key reason for this is that we don't live a feudal society divided in serfs and lords by birthright, so most workers who do have the courage to stand up to management can (and in most industries do) simply become managers. So the population of people in abusive jobs isn't representative of the whole society, it's a self-selected subpopulation of people who are willing to tolerate that.

gwervc 3y ago

I don't think so. At least at the organizational level, I noticed that most companies try to screw workers, despite being in a country with one of the most protective labor laws. My former company did me dirty (I stayed only the trial period), my current company is fine but still not applying some of the laws. When speaking of that with people the very large portion of them (like 90%) were like "keep it low", "that's how jobs are", etc. My own father mocked me when I spoke about fighting for my rights in my current company. One people encouraged me but added that they wouldn't have the courage to do it in my situation. It's astonishing how most people are carpets, ready to by walked on. Slaves who don't even entertain the thought of rising their voices. Which brings me to the middle managers and why I think GP is right: most people just bend their head and accept to do whatever is thrown at them, of course surprised pikachu face happens when someone they no. Since managers manage slaves and slaves can't say no, mechanically it raises the question of the status of someone who is confident enough to stand for himself.

PeterisP 3y ago
A key reason for this is that we don't live a feudal society divided in serfs and lords by birthright, so most workers who do have the courage to stand up to management can (and in most industries do) simply become managers. So the population of people in abusive jobs isn't representative of the whole society, it's a self-selected subpopulation of people who are willing to tolerate that.