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Selling $3k equipment for $500 is the path to a death spiral. Especially when shipping equipment to a warzone where the equipment life is around 3 months and se

Selling $3k equipment for $500 is the path to a death spiral. Especially when shipping equipment to a warzone where the equipment life is around 3 months and several of the users don't appreciate the losses. Starlink is doing value engineering so there's a company tomorrow. They hope to be the first constellation to recover lifetime costs and profit. Avoiding bankruptcy

nojvek 3y ago
My observation is that SpaceX is Elon's most successful company. It is fully private, he has great ties with US govt and even if Starlink goes out, SpaceX will keep shinning on.
- inemesitaffia 3y ago
  It's what captures the mind. Profits matter and they are on the way
xoa 3y ago
Uh, the business terminal is $2500, not $500 (and the standard terminal is $600 too). I don't live in a warzone, I live in northern New England. The "$3k for $500" thing is from the beta period over 3 years ago, costs on even the basic one have long since dropped a lot. Not including a router at all would also save a big pile of hardware. And it's not presence of SFP or separate ethernet or not that has anything to do with most of the BOM either. Literally nothing you wrote had anything to do with my comment, just generic LLM type shlock. Try to do better.
- inemesitaffia 3y ago
  LLM what? I'm on pretty much every starlink forum. Those rectangular dishes cost around $1700 to manufacture when they first became available. Maybe $400 to $750 today. You've never heard of loss leaders? Contrarevenue? Cost curves? Yes the first round ones were 3k all in. There's new board revisions all the time. Until Q2 2023 SpaceX was losing money on Terminals in the US. The discounts are still there outside the US. Do you think the cost of manufacturing is now under $250? How much does air shipping to Europe in bulk cost for the dishes?

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Selling $3k equipment for $500 is the path to a death spiral. Especially when shipping equipment to a warzone where the equipment life is around 3 months and se

by inemesitaffia 3y ago

nojvek 3y ago
My observation is that SpaceX is Elon's most successful company. It is fully private, he has great ties with US govt and even if Starlink goes out, SpaceX will keep shinning on.
- inemesitaffia 3y ago
  It's what captures the mind. Profits matter and they are on the way
xoa 3y ago
Uh, the business terminal is $2500, not $500 (and the standard terminal is $600 too). I don't live in a warzone, I live in northern New England. The "$3k for $500" thing is from the beta period over 3 years ago, costs on even the basic one have long since dropped a lot. Not including a router at all would also save a big pile of hardware. And it's not presence of SFP or separate ethernet or not that has anything to do with most of the BOM either. Literally nothing you wrote had anything to do with my comment, just generic LLM type shlock. Try to do better.
- inemesitaffia 3y ago
  LLM what? I'm on pretty much every starlink forum. Those rectangular dishes cost around $1700 to manufacture when they first became available. Maybe $400 to $750 today. You've never heard of loss leaders? Contrarevenue? Cost curves? Yes the first round ones were 3k all in. There's new board revisions all the time. Until Q2 2023 SpaceX was losing money on Terminals in the US. The discounts are still there outside the US. Do you think the cost of manufacturing is now under $250? How much does air shipping to Europe in bulk cost for the dishes?