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> effectivly using 2 stalls to charge Only for stations that aren't at the end of a row or lack a parking spot adjacent. And only if the "blocked" spot can't

by ajross 3y ago

> effectivly using 2 stalls to charge Only for stations that aren't at the end of a row or lack a parking spot adjacent. And only if the "blocked" spot can't be used by another "mirror image" car design. I mean, gas stations have been dealing with this problem for decades (different car designs need to pull through along different sides, so sometimes my Mazda "blocks" the two pumps because other cars can't pull in until I move) and we've all survived. And in any case, unless you're trying to charge on major corridors on high traffic weekends, it's academic anyway. Over 30k miles and almost three years, I can count on one hand the number of times my Model Y has had to wait for a charger spot. People are making way to big a deal out of a minor issue, basically. Standard Tesla discussion form.

jmacd 3y ago
There is 1 stall on a single set of superchargers which can be charged by a F-150 without blocking 2 stalls, that is if there is an adjacent spot on the right side/end of the chargers, which is not always the case. This is a post about Ford's getting access to Superchargers, so I don't think it's making a "big deal" about anything to simply describe the configuration of the trucks and how that impacts their ability to use the superchargers. It just is what it is.
- ajross 3y ago
  > There is 1 stall on a single set of superchargers which can be charged by a F-150 without blocking 2 stalls Verifiably false. Put a F-150 in every stall, and only one on the very end is blocked, and only if there isn't an open parking space next to it. If F-150's make up a significant fraction of the charging population, then you're looking at half the impact (25%) at most, not even including the spots on the ends that don't have a spot to block (most rows are 4-8 spots wide, so that's another 12-25% recovered). And of course if F-150's don't make up a significant fraction of the charging population, then you're not looking at a significant impact by definition. I repeat, in exhaustion: This Is Not A Big Deal. Please stop making everything a big deal Because Tesla. It's exhausting.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    Sir, sir! Logic and reason have no place in a discussion that still needs to find reasons to hate the F150. ;)
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_ea1k 3y ago
> People are making way to big a deal out of a minor issue, basically. Standard Tesla discussion form. Yeah, I've seen way too much stress about this issue. I'm sure there will be a few stations that have issues for short periods of time, but the overall picture just doesn't change that much. And the solution is the same anyway. Just keep building.
dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
> I mean, gas stations have been dealing with this problem for decades Given the much longer time it takes to charge an EV it's not comparable. It becomes a serious issue based on demand, obviously, where a dearth of chargers becomes even worse. It'll be sorted out over time but meanwhile there's more pain for EV users even as the number of compatible chargers increases, lessening the positive impact.
- jmacd 3y ago
  Gas stations have a very different configuration than Superchargers. It's an odd comparison to being with. Drive through supercharger stalls could be really nice and would resolve this issue, but they would take up a lot more real estate.

by ajross 3y ago

jmacd 3y ago

There is 1 stall on a single set of superchargers which can be charged by a F-150 without blocking 2 stalls, that is if there is an adjacent spot on the right side/end of the chargers, which is not always the case. This is a post about Ford's getting access to Superchargers, so I don't think it's making a "big deal" about anything to simply describe the configuration of the trucks and how that impacts their ability to use the superchargers. It just is what it is.

ajross 3y ago
> There is 1 stall on a single set of superchargers which can be charged by a F-150 without blocking 2 stalls Verifiably false. Put a F-150 in every stall, and only one on the very end is blocked, and only if there isn't an open parking space next to it. If F-150's make up a significant fraction of the charging population, then you're looking at half the impact (25%) at most, not even including the spots on the ends that don't have a spot to block (most rows are 4-8 spots wide, so that's another 12-25% recovered). And of course if F-150's don't make up a significant fraction of the charging population, then you're not looking at a significant impact by definition. I repeat, in exhaustion: This Is Not A Big Deal. Please stop making everything a big deal Because Tesla. It's exhausting.
- bombcar 3y ago
  Sir, sir! Logic and reason have no place in a discussion that still needs to find reasons to hate the F150. ;)
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_ea1k 3y ago

> People are making way to big a deal out of a minor issue, basically. Standard Tesla discussion form. Yeah, I've seen way too much stress about this issue. I'm sure there will be a few stations that have issues for short periods of time, but the overall picture just doesn't change that much. And the solution is the same anyway. Just keep building.

dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago

> I mean, gas stations have been dealing with this problem for decades Given the much longer time it takes to charge an EV it's not comparable. It becomes a serious issue based on demand, obviously, where a dearth of chargers becomes even worse. It'll be sorted out over time but meanwhile there's more pain for EV users even as the number of compatible chargers increases, lessening the positive impact.

jmacd 3y ago
Gas stations have a very different configuration than Superchargers. It's an odd comparison to being with. Drive through supercharger stalls could be really nice and would resolve this issue, but they would take up a lot more real estate.