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The F-150 Lightning has a charging port on the front driver's side. Tesla Superchargers are meant to be backed in to with a read driver's side charging port.
by jmacd 3y ago
The F-150 Lightning has a charging port on the front driver's side.
Tesla Superchargers are meant to be backed in to with a read driver's side charging port.
A F-150 will need to drive in to the spot adjacent to the charger they want to use and bring the charging cable across, effectivly using 2 stalls to charge, as far as I can tell.
- jhickok 3y agoSo basically the same experience we all have with them in grocery store parking lots.
- cyberax 3y agoEV charger cables need to conduct hundreds of amps of current. You can't easily make them much longer without losing efficiency.
- ajross 3y ago> effectivly using 2 stalls to charge Only for stations that aren't at the end of a row or lack a parking spot adjacent. And only if the "blocked" spot can't be used by another "mirror image" car design. I mean, gas stations have been dealing with this problem for decades (different car designs need to pull through along different sides, so sometimes my Mazda "blocks" the two pumps because other cars can't pull in until I move) and we've all survived. And in any case, unless you're trying to charge on major corridors on high traffic weekends, it's academic anyway. Over 30k miles and almost three years, I can count on one hand the number of times my Model Y has had to wait for a charger spot. People are making way to big a deal out of a minor issue, basically. Standard Tesla discussion form.
- jmacd 3y agoThere is 1 stall on a single set of superchargers which can be charged by a F-150 without blocking 2 stalls, that is if there is an adjacent spot on the right side/end of the chargers, which is not always the case. This is a post about Ford's getting access to Superchargers, so I don't think it's making a "big deal" about anything to simply describe the configuration of the trucks and how that impacts their ability to use the superchargers. It just is what it is.
- ajross 3y ago> There is 1 stall on a single set of superchargers which can be charged by a F-150 without blocking 2 stalls Verifiably false. Put a F-150 in every stall, and only one on the very end is blocked, and only if there isn't an open parking space next to it. If F-150's make up a significant fraction of the charging population, then you're looking at half the impact (25%) at most, not even including the spots on the ends that don't have a spot to block (most rows are 4-8 spots wide, so that's another 12-25% recovered). And of course if F-150's don't make up a significant fraction of the charging population, then you're not looking at a significant impact by definition. I repeat, in exhaustion: This Is Not A Big Deal. Please stop making everything a big deal Because Tesla. It's exhausting.
- _ea1k 3y ago> People are making way to big a deal out of a minor issue, basically. Standard Tesla discussion form. Yeah, I've seen way too much stress about this issue. I'm sure there will be a few stations that have issues for short periods of time, but the overall picture just doesn't change that much. And the solution is the same anyway. Just keep building.
- dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago> I mean, gas stations have been dealing with this problem for decades Given the much longer time it takes to charge an EV it's not comparable. It becomes a serious issue based on demand, obviously, where a dearth of chargers becomes even worse. It'll be sorted out over time but meanwhile there's more pain for EV users even as the number of compatible chargers increases, lessening the positive impact.
- jmacd 3y agoGas stations have a very different configuration than Superchargers. It's an odd comparison to being with. Drive through supercharger stalls could be really nice and would resolve this issue, but they would take up a lot more real estate.
- Torkel 3y agoIn Sweden this is a pain at super charger locations that allow non-Tesla vehicle charging. The almost randomized charge port locations makes lots of non-Tesla vehicles park in the wrong place and take up two spots. Not really sure what can be done about it except just hoping for more charge infrastructure to be built fast... If Tesla would go back to only offering charging for Tesla vehicles that would be nice when driving Tesla but a step back for the overall electrification so I'm actually ok with some minor annoyance on this.
- stbenjam 3y agoThey could make the cables longer but there's definitely a cost aspect given they're liquid cooled.
- datameta 3y agoI think it's a maintenance decision. Probably less wear and tear on the internal layers in a shorter cable that can't be spaghettified as easily. Could be off here.
- Torkel 3y agoHey! I just learned they are actually doing exactly that for V4 - Yay! https://electrek.co/2023/07/26/tesla-confirms-supercharger-v4-350-kw-output/ https://electrek.co/2023/07/26/tesla-confirms-supercharger-v...
- p1mrx 3y agoThey just need to fix this cable-snagging lip design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mox4tL3dR8o&t=1403s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mox4tL3dR8o&t=1403s
- brummm 3y agoI mean, this was essentially solved for gas stations with long, flexible cables. That is the obvious solution here.
- asabla 3y ago
- avalys 3y agoBut two F150s can still park next to each other and use two chargers, yes? The only wasted spot is at the interface between a Tesla and non-Tesla.
- adolph 3y agoDo you wind up wasting the next one in the row, so only wasting half as many slots? Reminds me of the 1/3 coin revolution problem: Circle A has 1/3 the radius of circle B. Circle A rolls around circle B until it returns to its starting position. How many revolutions of circle A are there in total? https://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2015/07/05/everyone-got-this-sat-math-question-wrong-can-you-solve-it-sunday-puzzle/ https://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2015/07/05/everyone-got-t...
- bluGill 3y agoMaybe, but if you are towing a trailer most charging locations are setup such that you have to block several different chargers in some way.