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> I'm loving Plasma 6 so far. Wayland support is much better! I'm jealous. I lasted about half an hour on Wayland, but several apps I use still don't work. xt

> I'm loving Plasma 6 so far. Wayland support is much better! I'm jealous. I lasted about half an hour on Wayland, but several apps I use still don't work. xtrlock (anti-cat measures) and freetube both wouldn't work, but worse was that games like Dying Light crash almost immediately. On KDE 6 / X11 it's a little better but the game still craters after an hour. Still figuring out why. Maybe it's because the laptop is an AMD ecosystem.

tamimio 3y ago
> freetube I have it and works fine on plasma6/wayland.
- troyvit 3y ago
  This must just be me then. I'll give it another shot!
bogwog 3y ago
> freetube I don't know about the other apps/games, but I use freetube all the time on my KDE5/Nvidia/Wayland system and have never had an issue with it. Which distro/gpu/driver version are you on?
- troyvit 3y ago
  You're right! I tried it again and all was well.
gtirloni 3y ago
I'd imagine XWayland Xorg emulation is far from perfect so I wouldn't be surprised if games that depend on that would crash. That being said, I recently switched to Wayland again after a hiatus and it seems support keeps improving. I'm not using proprietary NVIDIA drivers currently so that might be it.
- bitwize 3y ago
  The thing that you have to remember about Xwayland is that it is Xorg. It just has a Wayland DDX[0] on the back end rather than a device-specific DDX or one that talks e.g., directly to the modesetting driver. [0] Device-Dependent X, i.e., the bits of X that talk directly to the display. Contrasted with Device-Independent X (DIX), i.e., the bits that do state tracking and protocol communication with clients.
  - angiosperm 3y ago
    So, it is the Wayland DDX part that is buggy? How is that different from "Wayland Xorg emulation is buggy"?
    - shutty 3y ago
      Xwayland is maintained by Xorg
    - bitwize 3y ago
      Because it can't emulate what it actually is. Xwayland is Xorg.
rossy 3y ago
If a game doesn't work in Wayland, you could always launch it in gamescope[1], which AFAIR doesn't expose WAYLAND_DISPLAY by default, so games should treat it the same as an X11 desktop. [1]: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope
- bigstrat2003 3y ago
  I haven't had anything flat out refuse to work on Wayland, but unfortunately Discord won't work right. It runs, but it can't detect that you're AFK any more, so you stop getting messages on the mobile app. It's a bummer because otherwise I would love to use Wayland.

tamimio 3y ago

> freetube I have it and works fine on plasma6/wayland.

troyvit 3y ago
This must just be me then. I'll give it another shot!

bogwog 3y ago

> freetube I don't know about the other apps/games, but I use freetube all the time on my KDE5/Nvidia/Wayland system and have never had an issue with it. Which distro/gpu/driver version are you on?

troyvit 3y ago
You're right! I tried it again and all was well.

gtirloni 3y ago

I'd imagine XWayland Xorg emulation is far from perfect so I wouldn't be surprised if games that depend on that would crash. That being said, I recently switched to Wayland again after a hiatus and it seems support keeps improving. I'm not using proprietary NVIDIA drivers currently so that might be it.

bitwize 3y ago
The thing that you have to remember about Xwayland is that it is Xorg. It just has a Wayland DDX[0] on the back end rather than a device-specific DDX or one that talks e.g., directly to the modesetting driver. [0] Device-Dependent X, i.e., the bits of X that talk directly to the display. Contrasted with Device-Independent X (DIX), i.e., the bits that do state tracking and protocol communication with clients.
- angiosperm 3y ago
  So, it is the Wayland DDX part that is buggy? How is that different from "Wayland Xorg emulation is buggy"?
  - shutty 3y ago
    Xwayland is maintained by Xorg
  - bitwize 3y ago
    Because it can't emulate what it actually is. Xwayland is Xorg.

rossy 3y ago

If a game doesn't work in Wayland, you could always launch it in gamescope[1], which AFAIR doesn't expose WAYLAND_DISPLAY by default, so games should treat it the same as an X11 desktop. [1]: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope

bigstrat2003 3y ago
I haven't had anything flat out refuse to work on Wayland, but unfortunately Discord won't work right. It runs, but it can't detect that you're AFK any more, so you stop getting messages on the mobile app. It's a bummer because otherwise I would love to use Wayland.