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Yes exactly. When I think of cyberpunk computing devices, I think of cyber decks, which are basically the exact opposite of Apple devices.

ethbr1 3y ago
Eh. The AVP is getting close to an Ono-Sendai, in features if not freedom.
- keiferski 3y ago
  I haven't used one myself, but I don't get that impression at all. The Ono-Sendai is entirely VR, not AR, and definitely doesn't come across as having a user-friendly design.
  - ethbr1 3y ago
    The Ono-Sendai Cyberspace 7 was the visualization translation unit connected to a dermatrode headset (superseded by neuro jacks in later books) and was not completely alien to simstim input, evidenced by Case toggling between the two. See passage: https://genius.com/William-gibson-neuromancer-chapter-4-annotated https://genius.com/William-gibson-neuromancer-chapter-4-anno... It was definitely less user-friendly than the AVP, so more "Power is sometimes worth inconvenience" Macintosh IIci-era Apple.
    - keiferski 3y ago
      I always envisioned the Ono Sendai as something like an Alienware, except designed by Sony and actually popular amongst real computer enthusiasts (and powerful enough to warrant the reputation.)
      - ethbr1 3y ago
        One of my favorite things about Gibson is how impressionistic he is, especially for scifi, which leads to people having a lot of different mental images as they go through the books. :) Per closest reading of the source, it seems like a complete Matrix set would be {computer} + {deck/sensory translator} + {neural interface hardware, e.g. trodes or jack}. Believe it's also implied decks can run the Matrix standalone, without a computer, but likely have limited processing capacity. My physical manifestation of the deck was definitely very 90s crap plastic, but hinting that there were powerful and expensive electronics concealed within. There's also some textual stuff about them essentially being epoxy-filled / security-sealed to prevent tampering or reverse engineering.

ethbr1 3y ago

Eh. The AVP is getting close to an Ono-Sendai, in features if not freedom.

keiferski 3y ago
I haven't used one myself, but I don't get that impression at all. The Ono-Sendai is entirely VR, not AR, and definitely doesn't come across as having a user-friendly design.
- ethbr1 3y ago
  The Ono-Sendai Cyberspace 7 was the visualization translation unit connected to a dermatrode headset (superseded by neuro jacks in later books) and was not completely alien to simstim input, evidenced by Case toggling between the two. See passage: https://genius.com/William-gibson-neuromancer-chapter-4-annotated https://genius.com/William-gibson-neuromancer-chapter-4-anno... It was definitely less user-friendly than the AVP, so more "Power is sometimes worth inconvenience" Macintosh IIci-era Apple.
  - keiferski 3y ago
    I always envisioned the Ono Sendai as something like an Alienware, except designed by Sony and actually popular amongst real computer enthusiasts (and powerful enough to warrant the reputation.)
    - ethbr1 3y ago
      One of my favorite things about Gibson is how impressionistic he is, especially for scifi, which leads to people having a lot of different mental images as they go through the books. :) Per closest reading of the source, it seems like a complete Matrix set would be {computer} + {deck/sensory translator} + {neural interface hardware, e.g. trodes or jack}. Believe it's also implied decks can run the Matrix standalone, without a computer, but likely have limited processing capacity. My physical manifestation of the deck was definitely very 90s crap plastic, but hinting that there were powerful and expensive electronics concealed within. There's also some textual stuff about them essentially being epoxy-filled / security-sealed to prevent tampering or reverse engineering.