>I get that you don't like or trust credit card I do not get why people insist on defending the credit card companies and their ungoing enshittification and ch

>I get that you don't like or trust credit card I do not get why people insist on defending the credit card companies and their ungoing enshittification and changing rules and laws[1]. I would prefer you refuting my central argument[2]. Credit card laws and rules have many more problems than just chargebacks. For two decades online payment webpages stole credit card numbers and stole money from people. I could list many more documented cases. Elsewhere someone argues that debit cards are not credit cards. I agree. Of course Starlink forms reject debit cards too. [1] https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles/when-company-declines-your-credit-or-debit-card https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles/when-company-declines-your... [2] https://paulgraham.com/disagree.html https://paulgraham.com/disagree.html