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that said, while digital ocean is great, as far as i know hetzner is somewhat cheaper. compare! at digital ocean, 12$: 2GB RAM, 1vCPU, 20GB SSD, 2TB transfer

by stefs 3y ago

that said, while digital ocean is great, as far as i know hetzner is somewhat cheaper. compare! at digital ocean, 12$: 2GB RAM, 1vCPU, 20GB SSD, 2TB transfer at hetzner, 10,50$: 8GB RAM, 2vCPU, 80GB SSD, 20TB transfer

Citizen_Lame 3y ago
Yes, but Hetzner costumer service is from another planet. So in case of issues they won't be able to help, and you will have issues.
- radiator 3y ago
  And in case of no issues, you save quite a lot of money.
- Radim 3y ago
  Care to share why? I've been a Hetzner customer for nearly 10 years now. I just checked – first invoice in June 2014. And during that period, Hetzner's support – which I needed maybe 3 times since things generally just work – has always been stellar. I've used Linode too, and their support was comparable (=also great). But Hetzner wins on pricing, hands down. I actually appreciate Hetzner hasn't join the BS enshittification gimmick train (yet). If that's your complaint.
- kosolam 3y ago
  Hetzner has good support.
  - huggingmouth 3y ago
    I sttongly disagree based in my interaction with them. They were very rude. That said, their services are reasonably priced and they have been competent throughout my time with them. Hetzner would be far more appealing if they ever decide to muzzle their rebid support team.
    - rglullis 3y ago
      > They were very rude. No, they were German. Knowledgeable and efficient, but they won't coddle you or pretend that their life depend on your miser account. If you have a problem that can not be solved by their standard process, they will rather drop you than try to accommodate you.
      - huggingmouth 3y ago
        No, I'm afraid you're way off. Their response was far from efficient. I reported a fault in their interface and they wrote a whole peragraph demeaning me in a passive aggressive manner. The workaround (to their subpar system) was a single line at the end. Very opposite from German efficiency if you ask me. That said, I did switch newer deployments to another cloud provider who is more professional, so it really does seem that they do not care about my measly account :-) Cheers!
        zarzavat 3y ago
        German efficiency is a myth. German “rudeness” is not.
      - type0 3y ago
        > they will rather drop you than try to accommodate you. yeah they dropped my account and kept the money, now I know how they can be that cheap
  - rnewme 3y ago
    This was my experience too, both with my tiny personal account and my giant clients accounts
  - _cenw 3y ago
    Their abuse team is rude. Their technical support is usually professional, and the one time I talked to their legal team they were superb.
    - reddalo 3y ago
      They're Germans, after all
- remram 3y ago
  DigitalOcean has a long history of kicking out customers with no warning and no explanation. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11036554 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11036554 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20064169 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20064169 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29596138 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29596138 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29600320 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29600320 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38880713 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38880713 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39127683 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39127683
- icetngugzer 3y ago
  Similar to the other commenters I much disagree - "but this ofc. rly depends on what you expect from them..." If the thing has power, network, working hardware and is able to "boot into there rescue-system" that is all they care about. And for that support has been stellar including preventive disk swaps, moving disk into new chassis and such with feedback and action within minutes basically 24/7. But the software end is ofc. entirely on you, down to the BIOS where they roll you a network-KVM-Cart to the box for some hours after requesting it with a click. They wont fix your HTML errors, nor your php syntax errors, or explain how to setup SSL on your apache, nor will they help when you dont know how to operate ssh/putty ;) and if "with such an issue" one bothers the 24/7-datacenter guys (and not just "8-16/5 normal customer support") I may even understand that it seems a little rude ;-)

by stefs 3y ago

Citizen_Lame 3y ago

Yes, but Hetzner costumer service is from another planet. So in case of issues they won't be able to help, and you will have issues.

radiator 3y ago
And in case of no issues, you save quite a lot of money.
Radim 3y ago
Care to share why? I've been a Hetzner customer for nearly 10 years now. I just checked – first invoice in June 2014. And during that period, Hetzner's support – which I needed maybe 3 times since things generally just work – has always been stellar. I've used Linode too, and their support was comparable (=also great). But Hetzner wins on pricing, hands down. I actually appreciate Hetzner hasn't join the BS enshittification gimmick train (yet). If that's your complaint.
kosolam 3y ago
Hetzner has good support.
- huggingmouth 3y ago
  I sttongly disagree based in my interaction with them. They were very rude. That said, their services are reasonably priced and they have been competent throughout my time with them. Hetzner would be far more appealing if they ever decide to muzzle their rebid support team.
  - rglullis 3y ago
    > They were very rude. No, they were German. Knowledgeable and efficient, but they won't coddle you or pretend that their life depend on your miser account. If you have a problem that can not be solved by their standard process, they will rather drop you than try to accommodate you.
    - huggingmouth 3y ago
      No, I'm afraid you're way off. Their response was far from efficient. I reported a fault in their interface and they wrote a whole peragraph demeaning me in a passive aggressive manner. The workaround (to their subpar system) was a single line at the end. Very opposite from German efficiency if you ask me. That said, I did switch newer deployments to another cloud provider who is more professional, so it really does seem that they do not care about my measly account :-) Cheers!
      - zarzavat 3y ago
        German efficiency is a myth. German “rudeness” is not.
    - type0 3y ago
      > they will rather drop you than try to accommodate you. yeah they dropped my account and kept the money, now I know how they can be that cheap
- rnewme 3y ago
  This was my experience too, both with my tiny personal account and my giant clients accounts
- _cenw 3y ago
  Their abuse team is rude. Their technical support is usually professional, and the one time I talked to their legal team they were superb.
  - reddalo 3y ago
    They're Germans, after all
remram 3y ago
DigitalOcean has a long history of kicking out customers with no warning and no explanation. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11036554 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11036554 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20064169 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20064169 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29596138 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29596138 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29600320 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29600320 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38880713 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38880713 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39127683 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39127683
icetngugzer 3y ago
Similar to the other commenters I much disagree - "but this ofc. rly depends on what you expect from them..." If the thing has power, network, working hardware and is able to "boot into there rescue-system" that is all they care about. And for that support has been stellar including preventive disk swaps, moving disk into new chassis and such with feedback and action within minutes basically 24/7. But the software end is ofc. entirely on you, down to the BIOS where they roll you a network-KVM-Cart to the box for some hours after requesting it with a click. They wont fix your HTML errors, nor your php syntax errors, or explain how to setup SSL on your apache, nor will they help when you dont know how to operate ssh/putty ;) and if "with such an issue" one bothers the 24/7-datacenter guys (and not just "8-16/5 normal customer support") I may even understand that it seems a little rude ;-)