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I've heard that Hetzner is a good provider, so I want to buy a cheap unmanaged VPS server in the USA. But can not find any mention about VPS. Any help, please?

I've heard that Hetzner is a good provider, so I want to buy a cheap unmanaged VPS server in the USA. But can not find any mention about VPS. Any help, please? Just need to replace this one (the same bad story $$$ as Netlify recently): https://www.leaseweb.com/fr/cloud/virtual-server https://www.leaseweb.com/fr/cloud/virtual-server

mglz 3y ago
Managed virtual servers are available here: https://www.hetzner.com/managed-server/ https://www.hetzner.com/managed-server/
- account42 3y ago
  VPS = you get a virtual manchine which you administer yourself. Managed servers are something different entirely.
edm0nd 3y ago
Just use DigitalOcean. Easy setup and very cheap VPS options.
- lovegrenoble 3y ago
  Thank you, Sir.
  - stefs 3y ago
    that said, while digital ocean is great, as far as i know hetzner is somewhat cheaper. compare! at digital ocean, 12$: 2GB RAM, 1vCPU, 20GB SSD, 2TB transfer at hetzner, 10,50$: 8GB RAM, 2vCPU, 80GB SSD, 20TB transfer
    - Citizen_Lame 3y ago
      Yes, but Hetzner costumer service is from another planet. So in case of issues they won't be able to help, and you will have issues.
      - radiator 3y ago
        And in case of no issues, you save quite a lot of money.
      - Radim 3y ago
        Care to share why? I've been a Hetzner customer for nearly 10 years now. I just checked – first invoice in June 2014. And during that period, Hetzner's support – which I needed maybe 3 times since things generally just work – has always been stellar. I've used Linode too, and their support was comparable (=also great). But Hetzner wins on pricing, hands down. I actually appreciate Hetzner hasn't join the BS enshittification gimmick train (yet). If that's your complaint.
      - kosolam 3y ago
        Hetzner has good support.
        huggingmouth 3y ago
        I sttongly disagree based in my interaction with them. They were very rude. That said, their services are reasonably priced and they have been competent throughout my time with them. Hetzner would be far more appealing if they ever decide to muzzle their rebid support team.
        rglullis 3y ago
        > They were very rude. No, they were German. Knowledgeable and efficient, but they won't coddle you or pretend that their life depend on your miser account. If you have a problem that can not be solved by their standard process, they will rather drop you than try to accommodate you.
        3y ago
- TiredOfLife 3y ago
  DigitalOcean is at least 2-3 times more expensive with 10-3 times less bandwidth
- AnonHP 3y ago
  DigitalOcean, even before it had huge layoffs, blocked my new account and wouldn’t allow me to pay. There was absolutely no support whatsoever for that. Just a template email and no other way to escalate or write to a human. I can only imagine how much worse it would be now with reduced staff.
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Sebb767 3y ago
You're looking for the cloud servers: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/ https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/
- lovegrenoble 3y ago
  Sorry for my silliness, so 'cloud' is a new name for 'VPS'?
  - CodesInChaos 3y ago
    VPS are a part of the cloud offering now. Just like EC2 is part of AWS. Once change is that traditionally VPSs used local disk storage, while cloud servers use network block storage. Usually clouds offer additional higher level features, in addition to basic VMs, such as load balancers, object storage and managed containers. Though Hetzner currently offers very little in that regard.
    - skrause 3y ago
      > Once change is that traditionally VPSs used local disk storage, while cloud servers use network block storage. Hetzner Cloud uses local NVMe SSD storage. They used to have Ceph based network block storage, but deprecated that around 2 years ago.
  - FooBarWidget 3y ago
    This rename has been a thing for 10 years now. All the VPS providers jumped on the cloud bandwagon and call themselves cloud.
treffer 3y ago
Virtual private server == anything that is not a whole machine, usually referring to small VMs. In hetzner speak you want a "shared vCPU server". That's roughly what others offer as VPS, just more clearly spelled out (IMHO). You get fractional CPU usage that should be burstable and roundabout one core.
- lovegrenoble 3y ago
  Thank you, finally I understood that.
dakiol 3y ago
Be ready to handover a copy of your national ID/passport
- alwayslikethis 3y ago
  Can you elaborate? I have a VPS and a storage box on Hetzner and I'm so far satisfied with it, minus the sometimes confusing interface between their different products.
  - MikusR 3y ago
    Because they are so cheap, they are often used by spammers or other shady entities. So occasionally they may ask for ID. For example, if you connect from one country, use an address from another country and use prepaid card from yet another country.
    - crotchfire 3y ago
      used by spammers Then why don't they just ask for ID if you want port 25 unblocked? Doesn't add up.
      - V__ 3y ago
        The ports are blocked by default for new customers. After a few billing cycles, a request can be made to have it lifted.
  - formerly_proven 3y ago
    [flagged]
    - cbg0 3y ago
      Where exactly can someone else buy a car with a copy of your ID?
      - 3y ago

mglz 3y ago

Managed virtual servers are available here: https://www.hetzner.com/managed-server/ https://www.hetzner.com/managed-server/

account42 3y ago
VPS = you get a virtual manchine which you administer yourself. Managed servers are something different entirely.

edm0nd 3y ago

Just use DigitalOcean. Easy setup and very cheap VPS options.

lovegrenoble 3y ago
Thank you, Sir.
- stefs 3y ago
  that said, while digital ocean is great, as far as i know hetzner is somewhat cheaper. compare! at digital ocean, 12$: 2GB RAM, 1vCPU, 20GB SSD, 2TB transfer at hetzner, 10,50$: 8GB RAM, 2vCPU, 80GB SSD, 20TB transfer
  - Citizen_Lame 3y ago
    Yes, but Hetzner costumer service is from another planet. So in case of issues they won't be able to help, and you will have issues.
    - radiator 3y ago
      And in case of no issues, you save quite a lot of money.
    - Radim 3y ago
      Care to share why? I've been a Hetzner customer for nearly 10 years now. I just checked – first invoice in June 2014. And during that period, Hetzner's support – which I needed maybe 3 times since things generally just work – has always been stellar. I've used Linode too, and their support was comparable (=also great). But Hetzner wins on pricing, hands down. I actually appreciate Hetzner hasn't join the BS enshittification gimmick train (yet). If that's your complaint.
    - kosolam 3y ago
      Hetzner has good support.
      - huggingmouth 3y ago
        I sttongly disagree based in my interaction with them. They were very rude. That said, their services are reasonably priced and they have been competent throughout my time with them. Hetzner would be far more appealing if they ever decide to muzzle their rebid support team.
        rglullis 3y ago
        > They were very rude. No, they were German. Knowledgeable and efficient, but they won't coddle you or pretend that their life depend on your miser account. If you have a problem that can not be solved by their standard process, they will rather drop you than try to accommodate you.
        3y ago
TiredOfLife 3y ago
DigitalOcean is at least 2-3 times more expensive with 10-3 times less bandwidth
AnonHP 3y ago
DigitalOcean, even before it had huge layoffs, blocked my new account and wouldn’t allow me to pay. There was absolutely no support whatsoever for that. Just a template email and no other way to escalate or write to a human. I can only imagine how much worse it would be now with reduced staff.

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Sebb767 3y ago

You're looking for the cloud servers: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/ https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/

lovegrenoble 3y ago
Sorry for my silliness, so 'cloud' is a new name for 'VPS'?
- CodesInChaos 3y ago
  VPS are a part of the cloud offering now. Just like EC2 is part of AWS. Once change is that traditionally VPSs used local disk storage, while cloud servers use network block storage. Usually clouds offer additional higher level features, in addition to basic VMs, such as load balancers, object storage and managed containers. Though Hetzner currently offers very little in that regard.
  - skrause 3y ago
    > Once change is that traditionally VPSs used local disk storage, while cloud servers use network block storage. Hetzner Cloud uses local NVMe SSD storage. They used to have Ceph based network block storage, but deprecated that around 2 years ago.
- FooBarWidget 3y ago
  This rename has been a thing for 10 years now. All the VPS providers jumped on the cloud bandwagon and call themselves cloud.

treffer 3y ago

Virtual private server == anything that is not a whole machine, usually referring to small VMs. In hetzner speak you want a "shared vCPU server". That's roughly what others offer as VPS, just more clearly spelled out (IMHO). You get fractional CPU usage that should be burstable and roundabout one core.

lovegrenoble 3y ago
Thank you, finally I understood that.

dakiol 3y ago

Be ready to handover a copy of your national ID/passport

alwayslikethis 3y ago
Can you elaborate? I have a VPS and a storage box on Hetzner and I'm so far satisfied with it, minus the sometimes confusing interface between their different products.
- MikusR 3y ago
  Because they are so cheap, they are often used by spammers or other shady entities. So occasionally they may ask for ID. For example, if you connect from one country, use an address from another country and use prepaid card from yet another country.
  - crotchfire 3y ago
    used by spammers Then why don't they just ask for ID if you want port 25 unblocked? Doesn't add up.
    - V__ 3y ago
      The ports are blocked by default for new customers. After a few billing cycles, a request can be made to have it lifted.
- formerly_proven 3y ago
  [flagged]
  - cbg0 3y ago
    Where exactly can someone else buy a car with a copy of your ID?
    - 3y ago