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How come I was able to browse HN just fine from another browser? Nothing conspiratorial about it. I can see how it can just be normative moderation and them be

How come I was able to browse HN just fine from another browser? Nothing conspiratorial about it. I can see how it can just be normative moderation and them believing it is for the greater good. All this talk of correcting bias never seems apply to oneself however. ;)

piva00 3y ago
> How come I was able to browse HN just fine from another browser? Logged out experience is different than logged in, others noticed it being unresponsive logged in as well so we can assume it's not related to your user, can't we?
doix 3y ago
Were you logged in? When you're logged out, you get a cached version of the page. When you're logged in, the server needs to generate the page for you in case you hid something (or something else that might modify the page). I'm just making an educated guess since I don't know anything about the internals of HN, but it seems likely enough to me.
- verticalscaler 3y ago
  Very good point, I've considered this too. So far I've observed that I was simultaneously logged in with an alt on another browser and it worked fine. I also got the message on the same wifi network but not when browsing from a phone, suggesting an IP timeout. It doesn't have to be nefarious. Dang has told me in his view I am misbehaving deep inside a Google thread that was memory holed from the front page. Maybe he was doing his legitimate moderation and also did the same equally to people who hurl personal attacks at anybody who is negative about DEI, who knows. ;)
  - dang 3y ago
    I don't care what people think about $ISSUE and don't track it. What I care about is discussion quality on HN. What I track (or try to) is whether accounts are (1) posting high- or low-quality comments, (2) following or breaking the site guidelines, and (3) getting involved in flamewars.
    - verticalscaler 3y ago
      Good to know that you don't track specific posters about $ISSUE. As I wrote, it doesn't have to be nefarious. As I also wrote at the top of the thread, seems discussing DEI at all will trigger it by definition as the pro-DEI cohort -doesn't even have to be the mods- will ensure this. I have no interest in flame wars. This subject is brigadiered to the max. As a direct result I get a lot of personal attacks which you yourself dinged people for, and I avoid those interactions as much as possible. I'm not the only one experiencing this - it significantly hurts the quality of discussion. Whether intentionally or not you are simply letting that crowd very rudely shout down anybody who disagrees with them. If anything DEI is in and of itself "low quality" or generally frowned upon please add it to the site guidelines.

piva00 3y ago

> How come I was able to browse HN just fine from another browser? Logged out experience is different than logged in, others noticed it being unresponsive logged in as well so we can assume it's not related to your user, can't we?

doix 3y ago

Were you logged in? When you're logged out, you get a cached version of the page. When you're logged in, the server needs to generate the page for you in case you hid something (or something else that might modify the page). I'm just making an educated guess since I don't know anything about the internals of HN, but it seems likely enough to me.

verticalscaler 3y ago
Very good point, I've considered this too. So far I've observed that I was simultaneously logged in with an alt on another browser and it worked fine. I also got the message on the same wifi network but not when browsing from a phone, suggesting an IP timeout. It doesn't have to be nefarious. Dang has told me in his view I am misbehaving deep inside a Google thread that was memory holed from the front page. Maybe he was doing his legitimate moderation and also did the same equally to people who hurl personal attacks at anybody who is negative about DEI, who knows. ;)
- dang 3y ago
  I don't care what people think about $ISSUE and don't track it. What I care about is discussion quality on HN. What I track (or try to) is whether accounts are (1) posting high- or low-quality comments, (2) following or breaking the site guidelines, and (3) getting involved in flamewars.
  - verticalscaler 3y ago
    Good to know that you don't track specific posters about $ISSUE. As I wrote, it doesn't have to be nefarious. As I also wrote at the top of the thread, seems discussing DEI at all will trigger it by definition as the pro-DEI cohort -doesn't even have to be the mods- will ensure this. I have no interest in flame wars. This subject is brigadiered to the max. As a direct result I get a lot of personal attacks which you yourself dinged people for, and I avoid those interactions as much as possible. I'm not the only one experiencing this - it significantly hurts the quality of discussion. Whether intentionally or not you are simply letting that crowd very rudely shout down anybody who disagrees with them. If anything DEI is in and of itself "low quality" or generally frowned upon please add it to the site guidelines.