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So any text/image which is publicly available, now can be used to generate a potentially very similar work (with AI tools which scraped it) without any attribut

by zx8080 3y ago

So any text/image which is publicly available, now can be used to generate a potentially very similar work (with AI tools which scraped it) without any attribution to its original author. Without any licensing limitations. Is this how it works now?

nicbou 3y ago
Yup. As someone who put a lot of new information on the internet, I find it dispiriting. I'm happy that knowledge spreads further than expected, but I'm not happy that others are taking the reward while stripping me of even acknowledgement. It feels like instead of fixing bicycles for my community, I'm sending them to a warehouse across the ocean for resale.
- ehnto 3y ago
  Even if you could be acknowledged it would be meaningless in the sea of a million attributions. It's really a problem that needs to be solved at the scraping step I feel. That the internet is "public" and thus scraping it is fine has always seemed a little bit too generous to me. It's my work, on my server, I allow people who want to look at it do so, I never said OpenAI the company was free to connect to my sever and scrape it.
  - nicbou 3y ago
    I agree with you. My biggest gripe with AI is that they just scrape and use my content without asking. As the license holder I should get a say in this, and the default answer is no. But once again the tech industry shows a terrifying lack of understanding of consent. I wouldn't let these people anywhere near my drink.
    - CatWChainsaw 3y ago
      It's not that they don't understand, it's that they don't give a shit.
ehnto 3y ago
Practically speaking, even if there could be some nuance to the law, that is what is actually happening. Even if the US passes laws, the rest of the world will crack on. I don't post creative work publicly anymore, which means no one sees it. But barely anyone was going to anyway, and at least my work isn't getting exploited by corporations. I am not against my work being part of a model that is for and used by society in principle. I am just against corporations taking from and exploiting the society that supports them.
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by zx8080 3y ago

nicbou 3y ago

Yup. As someone who put a lot of new information on the internet, I find it dispiriting. I'm happy that knowledge spreads further than expected, but I'm not happy that others are taking the reward while stripping me of even acknowledgement. It feels like instead of fixing bicycles for my community, I'm sending them to a warehouse across the ocean for resale.

ehnto 3y ago
Even if you could be acknowledged it would be meaningless in the sea of a million attributions. It's really a problem that needs to be solved at the scraping step I feel. That the internet is "public" and thus scraping it is fine has always seemed a little bit too generous to me. It's my work, on my server, I allow people who want to look at it do so, I never said OpenAI the company was free to connect to my sever and scrape it.
- nicbou 3y ago
  I agree with you. My biggest gripe with AI is that they just scrape and use my content without asking. As the license holder I should get a say in this, and the default answer is no. But once again the tech industry shows a terrifying lack of understanding of consent. I wouldn't let these people anywhere near my drink.
  - CatWChainsaw 3y ago
    It's not that they don't understand, it's that they don't give a shit.

ehnto 3y ago

Practically speaking, even if there could be some nuance to the law, that is what is actually happening. Even if the US passes laws, the rest of the world will crack on. I don't post creative work publicly anymore, which means no one sees it. But barely anyone was going to anyway, and at least my work isn't getting exploited by corporations. I am not against my work being part of a model that is for and used by society in principle. I am just against corporations taking from and exploiting the society that supports them.

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