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I'm not certain that "dumber than they’ve ever been" is true. The "Flynn Effect" seems well substantiated: Test score increases have been continuous and approx
by adolph 3y ago
I'm not certain that "dumber than they’ve ever been" is true. The "Flynn Effect" seems well substantiated:
Test score increases have been continuous and approximately linear from the earliest years of testing to the present. For example, a study published in the year 2009 found that British children's average scores on the Raven's Progressive Matrices test rose by 14 IQ points from 1942 to 2008.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
- red75prime 3y agoImprovements in environmental factors, that probably had driven the Flynn effect, have topped out. And now the effect seems to be reversed (at least in developed countries).
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 3y ago"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - Kay, Men In Black
- ycombinete 3y agoI think this paraphrases Nietzsche: Madness is something rare in individuals — but in groups, parties, peoples, and ages, it is the rule.
- JohnMakin 3y agoOk cool now do this same measurement of test scores since 2020. It’s also well known that this hypothesis has not been holding up well in the last 30 years.
- seattle_spring 3y agoIs that documented somewhere that you can share? If it’s well known then there must be a ton of articles and papers about such phenomena.
- Kbelicius 3y agoThe data is there in the wikipedia page linked earlier on the Flynn effect under "Possible end of progression".
- whimsicalism 3y agoi mean just google it, the pause in flynn is a very well known effect in the developed world
- ghosty141 3y agoDo you habe any data to back up your claims? If not you are spreading misinformation yourself.
- Kbelicius 3y agoThe data is there in the wikipedia page linked earlier on the Flynn effect under "Possible end of progression".
- RoyalHenOil 3y agoSo was 2020 the peak of intelligent commentary on the internet? I seem to recall that the quality of discourse was much higher around the year 2000, even though average IQ was higher in 2020. I think this is a red herring. It used to be harder to access the internet, and it selected for a certain type of person. Today, in the era of the smart phone, virtually everyone in wealthy nations is on the internet. Most notably, that includes vast numbers of children. I bet if you looked poorer countries where few people have internet-connected devices, the quality of discourse is much higher. In particular, there are likely few children participating (and the ones who do likely have unusually proactive and involved parents).
- JohnMakin 3y agoThe red herring is a fair point. I have had to moderate comment sections off and on over the years and there are times when the magnitude of stupidity overwhelms you, so I was venting a bit.