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> unlike wind turbines, photovoltaic solar panels scale down very well; you can get a 200-watt-peak panel. That's why in UK we have banned construction of Wind

> unlike wind turbines, photovoltaic solar panels scale down very well; you can get a 200-watt-peak panel. That's why in UK we have banned construction of Wind Turbines on land, we have banned construction of solar panels on land of 'potential agricultural value', which is basically anything except mountainous terrain. We have blocked construction of a win farm in South England due to 'potential noise pollution and congestion'. And we give subsidies to the DRAX power plant that 'sustainably' burns the amazon rainforest that was turned into woodchips and shipping 9000 miles to get there. I have entirely lost faith in the anglo-speaking west as a force for good and progress in this matter.

KptMarchewa 3y ago
You have absurd amount of space for offshore wind. Just cover whole doggerland with turbines and you'll have several times more than you need.
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  Of course we do, but imagine your a local farmer losing money on sheep production, you could normally at least have side income. Not it’s illegal
kragen 3y ago
presumably you can still put one on your roof tho?
ben_w 3y ago
> That's why in UK we have banned construction of Wind Turbines on land, we have banned construction of solar panels on land of 'potential agricultural value', which is basically anything except mountainous terrain. I think that ban has more to do with the current party of government being the Conservative Party, who like to imagine the natural state of the whole UK being just like the gardens of a Victorian era country house. For the sake of everyone not from the UK, this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Harlaxton_Manor_-_University_of_Evansville_College_near_Grantham,_UK.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Harlaxton_Manor_-_Univers... > I have entirely lost faith in the anglo-speaking west as a force for good and progress in this matter. You're not alone. Weirdly, even it seems that even Conservative MPs don't have much faith in the Conservative Party right now.
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  > Conservative Party, who like to imagine the natural state of the whole UK being just like the gardens of a Victorian era country house I would be happy if that’s what they said, but they campaign on economic growth and investment and then block every attempt to build anything with investment.

KptMarchewa 3y ago

You have absurd amount of space for offshore wind. Just cover whole doggerland with turbines and you'll have several times more than you need.

ClumsyPilot 3y ago
Of course we do, but imagine your a local farmer losing money on sheep production, you could normally at least have side income. Not it’s illegal

kragen 3y ago

presumably you can still put one on your roof tho?

ben_w 3y ago

> That's why in UK we have banned construction of Wind Turbines on land, we have banned construction of solar panels on land of 'potential agricultural value', which is basically anything except mountainous terrain. I think that ban has more to do with the current party of government being the Conservative Party, who like to imagine the natural state of the whole UK being just like the gardens of a Victorian era country house. For the sake of everyone not from the UK, this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Harlaxton_Manor_-_University_of_Evansville_College_near_Grantham,_UK.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Harlaxton_Manor_-_Univers... > I have entirely lost faith in the anglo-speaking west as a force for good and progress in this matter. You're not alone. Weirdly, even it seems that even Conservative MPs don't have much faith in the Conservative Party right now.

ClumsyPilot 3y ago
> Conservative Party, who like to imagine the natural state of the whole UK being just like the gardens of a Victorian era country house I would be happy if that’s what they said, but they campaign on economic growth and investment and then block every attempt to build anything with investment.