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> When I was in the military cell phones were extremely new, but I honestly don't see why most commands don't say "leave phones and other electronics at home wh

> When I was in the military cell phones were extremely new, but I honestly don't see why most commands don't say "leave phones and other electronics at home when coming to base" and then you just tell anyone who needs to contact you to call the command quarterdeck or whatever. Because soldiers will just go and take their phones anyway - they will want to keep in touch with their families. The solution to this problem is to kill off the targeted ads market in its entirety. Maybe national security is the only way to actually make that go through.

mckn1ght 3y ago
Seems like something the NSA should be in charge of, maintaining a custom Android ROM or even a fully custom built OS/device.
- mschuster91 3y ago
  Just browsing the web is enough to deliver enough metadata to RTBs to make correlations possible.
  - mckn1ght 3y ago
    If I were the shot caller I’d have it tunnel to an NSA data center via a proprietary protocol. Then the data center makes the request with IP/HTTP, then serves the data back to the client again in the proprietary protocol.
lukan 3y ago
"Because soldiers will just go and take their phones anyway" When there is a military order - refusing is not an option. And you can check if people have smartphones with them without searching them - quite easy, how they do it in airplanes, emf meters. They are quite cheap. Also you don't have to ban them everywhere. But everywhere critial, yes. A ordinary mobile phone is basically a spying device in terms of security. I would not ask who maybe has access, but who has not. "The solution to this problem is to kill off the targeted ads market in its entirety. Maybe national security is the only way to actually make that go through." So I am sorry, but national security won't help get us rid of targeted ads, you probably also missed the part, where national security of course happily uses that data for themself. So for them it is way easier to just ban smartphones in more areas, than disrupt the internet ad market.

mckn1ght 3y ago

Seems like something the NSA should be in charge of, maintaining a custom Android ROM or even a fully custom built OS/device.

mschuster91 3y ago
Just browsing the web is enough to deliver enough metadata to RTBs to make correlations possible.
- mckn1ght 3y ago
  If I were the shot caller I’d have it tunnel to an NSA data center via a proprietary protocol. Then the data center makes the request with IP/HTTP, then serves the data back to the client again in the proprietary protocol.

lukan 3y ago

"Because soldiers will just go and take their phones anyway" When there is a military order - refusing is not an option. And you can check if people have smartphones with them without searching them - quite easy, how they do it in airplanes, emf meters. They are quite cheap. Also you don't have to ban them everywhere. But everywhere critial, yes. A ordinary mobile phone is basically a spying device in terms of security. I would not ask who maybe has access, but who has not. "The solution to this problem is to kill off the targeted ads market in its entirety. Maybe national security is the only way to actually make that go through." So I am sorry, but national security won't help get us rid of targeted ads, you probably also missed the part, where national security of course happily uses that data for themself. So for them it is way easier to just ban smartphones in more areas, than disrupt the internet ad market.