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Good. These are already two giant grocery store corporations, there's little reason to support this and a lot of reasons to oppose. We need more competition, n

Good. These are already two giant grocery store corporations, there's little reason to support this and a lot of reasons to oppose. We need more competition, not less. Really wish we could get Aldi or Lidl up in the PacNW. Yeah, there's Trader Joe's as a pseudo-Aldi owned by Aldi, but I'd love the real thing too.

mjevans 3y ago
It would be nice to have at least 3 differently owned grocers within reasonable distance for competition.
- TulliusCicero 3y ago
  Oh, there's more than that where I live, if you count all the different grocers. But it's nowhere close to how competitive grocers in Germany felt to me, when I recently lived in Munich. Where I'm at, the only nearby discount grocer is Grocery Outlet; in Munich, there was Aldi, Lidl, Netto, and Penny, all in less than a 10 minute trip by bike. Numbeo stats seem to bear this out, with grocery prices in Germany being ~20% lower than the US (and a quick googling indicates even starker differences according to other sites): https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Germany https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_resu...
  - hnburnsy 3y ago
    What are grocery companies margins in Germany?
hnburnsy 3y ago
You don't have Walmart, Target, Amazon, and/or Costco?
- TulliusCicero 3y ago
  Hmm, after checking my sources, I've determined that none of those are Aldi or Lidl.
  - hnburnsy 3y ago
    > Hmm, after checking my sources, I've determined that none of those are Aldi or Lidl. Sorry you said an unqualified 'more competition', not more competion in the 'unique' grocery store category of which Kroger does not compete.
    - TulliusCicero 3y ago
      Correct, more competition of any kind would be also nice to have. And more competition that specifically stresses low prices would be particularly nice to have.

mjevans 3y ago

It would be nice to have at least 3 differently owned grocers within reasonable distance for competition.

TulliusCicero 3y ago
Oh, there's more than that where I live, if you count all the different grocers. But it's nowhere close to how competitive grocers in Germany felt to me, when I recently lived in Munich. Where I'm at, the only nearby discount grocer is Grocery Outlet; in Munich, there was Aldi, Lidl, Netto, and Penny, all in less than a 10 minute trip by bike. Numbeo stats seem to bear this out, with grocery prices in Germany being ~20% lower than the US (and a quick googling indicates even starker differences according to other sites): https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Germany https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_resu...
- hnburnsy 3y ago
  What are grocery companies margins in Germany?

hnburnsy 3y ago

You don't have Walmart, Target, Amazon, and/or Costco?

TulliusCicero 3y ago
Hmm, after checking my sources, I've determined that none of those are Aldi or Lidl.
- hnburnsy 3y ago
  > Hmm, after checking my sources, I've determined that none of those are Aldi or Lidl. Sorry you said an unqualified 'more competition', not more competion in the 'unique' grocery store category of which Kroger does not compete.
  - TulliusCicero 3y ago
    Correct, more competition of any kind would be also nice to have. And more competition that specifically stresses low prices would be particularly nice to have.