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It does not sound dumb. Ideas like this crossed my mind and I had even put a playlist together too. However, mindfulness and being present is a huge part of th

by hosh 3y ago

It does not sound dumb. Ideas like this crossed my mind and I had even put a playlist together too. However, mindfulness and being present is a huge part of the practice. You get a lot more out of something if you are able to be more present during the boring parts than your consciousness leaving.

samatman 3y ago
Whether or not music takes you out of the present or not varies a lot by person. If you're the sort that finds it distracting then this isn't for you, and that's fine.
- hosh 3y ago
  Sure, although the sensations themselves are not the cause of being present or not. The idea of having music in the background to evoke a montage scene is a kind of fantasizing on what it feels like to be … montaging. My mind does something similar without a montage playlist. In both cases, the power of being present is partially siphoned off to sustain that fantasizing, rather than sensing and experiencing what is happening in the training. There is an alternate thing that can happen — the use of music to artificially create a proxy for the external, social conditioning. That is also a support, and if that is what someone need, sure. However, there is much to be said when someone is able to tap into the internal drive and passion, without relying on an external social conditioning. There are also skills that, you cannot develop without jettisoning supports like that.
  - samatman 3y ago
    > There are also skills that, you cannot develop I believe we've never met? That would make this presumptuous, or more likely, projection.
    - hosh 3y ago
      “You” as in general, not “you” specifically. I don’t have anything against anyone trying. One class of skills involving the consciousness is like that.
      - samatman 3y ago
        Ah yes, I see. English has a distinct pronoun for avoiding this sort of misunderstanding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_(pronoun) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_(pronoun)

by hosh 3y ago

samatman 3y ago

Whether or not music takes you out of the present or not varies a lot by person. If you're the sort that finds it distracting then this isn't for you, and that's fine.

hosh 3y ago
Sure, although the sensations themselves are not the cause of being present or not. The idea of having music in the background to evoke a montage scene is a kind of fantasizing on what it feels like to be … montaging. My mind does something similar without a montage playlist. In both cases, the power of being present is partially siphoned off to sustain that fantasizing, rather than sensing and experiencing what is happening in the training. There is an alternate thing that can happen — the use of music to artificially create a proxy for the external, social conditioning. That is also a support, and if that is what someone need, sure. However, there is much to be said when someone is able to tap into the internal drive and passion, without relying on an external social conditioning. There are also skills that, you cannot develop without jettisoning supports like that.
- samatman 3y ago
  > There are also skills that, you cannot develop I believe we've never met? That would make this presumptuous, or more likely, projection.
  - hosh 3y ago
    “You” as in general, not “you” specifically. I don’t have anything against anyone trying. One class of skills involving the consciousness is like that.
    - samatman 3y ago
      Ah yes, I see. English has a distinct pronoun for avoiding this sort of misunderstanding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_(pronoun) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_(pronoun)